Ahhhh...when issues get non-abstract and personal the hard-line conservative changes their tune!
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Ahhhh...when issues get non-abstract and personal the hard-line conservative changes their tune!
Arthur Brain
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How many times have you been corrected?
What you said does not necessarily contradict my position.
It would show them that when you commit adultery, the punishment is death, and deter them from ever committing the same crime.
It's certainly a possibility.
Perhaps if the mother had been deterred by the law the children would not be harmed.
Flowery noise that adds nothing to the conversation.
Plenty of times. But I accept correction. I don't reject it.
Arthur Brain
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No, I wasn't. If someone advocates the extremes as he does then it's fair to point out the obvious. Enough said on the matter.
Arthur Brain
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You accept it by whom? Do you ever question such?
Pleading special dispensations for your wife isn't rejecting it?
Blameless????
You mean "blameless" as when a man rapes a woman that acts promiscuous?
You like to claim that the bad action of a man (rape) was a consequence of the woman's bad action (promiscuity) and she shouldn't be all that surprised that she was raped.
So why not apply the same logic of consequences of the man's bad action being the result of the wife's bad actions and him not be all that surprised that she fled to arms of another?
Fair point.
Once the contract is broken the contract is no longer valid --- ie. she no longer has a "husband".
How can she commit adultery if she doesn't have a husband?
Or do think a piece of paper determines a commitment and not the heart?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
yes, blameless
do you agree that the excuse of being abused absolves her of blame for committing adultery?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
if my wife doesn't fetch me a beer quickly enough when i demand it, can i claim the marriage contract is broken and commit adultery blamelessly?
If a marriage is broken up just because a wrong was committed, then God would not have been able to divorce Israel AFTER she had been unfaithful to Him...
:think:
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
artie stamps his foot and insists:
actually artie, it does
it includes an infinite number of specific actions that you might find repulsive, and yet the marriage is expected to endure, in order to honor the vows taken before God
in fact, there's only one specific action that dissolves the marriage before God - a very specific, very special, an incredibly powerful action - more powerful than the most horrific abuse you can imagine - do you know what it is?
actually artie, it does
it includes an infinite number of specific actions that you might find repulsive, and yet the marriage is expected to endure, in order to honor the vows taken before God
in fact, there's only one specific action that dissolves the marriage before God - a very specific, very special, an incredibly powerful action - more powerful than the most horrific abuse you can imagine - do you know what it is?
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
those horrible people! :sibbie:
They should be stopped!
Shouted down in the marketplace of ideas!
Nailed to a cross!
Jesus Christ said:
oops
well, maybe not that last one
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
exactly what do you think "for better, for worse" means?
exactly what do you think "till death do us part" means when taken as a vow before God?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
to clarify, an abused spouse cannot claim that the marriage contract is "broken" except in the case of adultery
that does not mean that a physically abused spouse cannot seek redress for the physical abuse - as JR has pointed out, a spouse enduring physical abuse can and should seek legal action against the abusive spouse, who should be charged, tried and punished, swiftly, harshly and publicly
any other forms of "abuse" should be referred to the couple's pastor
that does not mean that a physically abused spouse cannot seek redress for the physical abuse - as JR has pointed out, a spouse enduring physical abuse can and should seek legal action against the abusive spouse, who should be charged, tried and punished, swiftly, harshly and publicly
any other forms of "abuse" should be referred to the couple's pastor