Pride in what you think America used to be. Fear about the changes you see. Anger against those you think are causing those changes.
Did you read the article rex posted?
Trump Has A Mandate
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Did you read the article rex posted?
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you don't think bammy played to pride in what america could become?
fear about what it would continue to be under mccain (aka bush-lite)?
anger about what bush had led the country to?
Really.
There's no place in the world which has ever been free of problems. When it is stated 'Make America Great Again' or 'Restoring Honor', or any other conservative buzz phrase, it is about bringing back motivation through pride and responsibility- these things are being lost on not only American society, but the whole of the 1st World.
Focusing on these 'identity issues', lobbyists manipulating government, so on and so forth has caused this country to lose sight of what it needs to be putting it's energy to.
Focusing on these 'identity issues', lobbyists manipulating government, so on and so forth has caused this country to lose sight of what it needs to be putting it's energy to.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
I don't re-call Trump's Slogan ever being "Attack the people who made the bad deals". It was more "We have to have better deals".
There is nothing inherently wrong in pride, anger, and fear. And anyone running for office will have a message that at least implicitly carries dissatisfaction with how things are currently going. So yes I imagine that Obama's message had some pride, anger, and fear too. I think the important differences would be in what your proposed solutions are and the primary focus of your message. My feeling is that it's fair to say that Trump's campaign was more based on anger and fear than Obama's and some of Trump's solutions went against values that I care about.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
trump didn't mask his feelings or his intents
why?
because he's not trained to do so, as a lawyer or a politician
bammy played to the same themes and generated the same enthusiasms, but he did it subtly, in a hidden manner
you know - like a sneaky scumbag
this is why trump's message resonated - he let it all hang out
why?
because he's not trained to do so, as a lawyer or a politician
bammy played to the same themes and generated the same enthusiasms, but he did it subtly, in a hidden manner
you know - like a sneaky scumbag
this is why trump's message resonated - he let it all hang out
Which solutions?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
specifically?
deportation of illegals?
(this was on the cbc this morning):
| WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has deported 240,255 immigrants over the past 12 months, a 2 percent increase over 2015. http://www.wral.com/us-deportations-of-illegal-immigrants-up-2-percent/16386143/ |
I think Trump resonated because he's real.
A working class man.
He has 23,000 employees.
He could just sell out and be a man of leisure but he attacks the World 20 hours a day 7 days a week.
Who was Romney? Some kind of Corporate Raider? How many people really understood how Romney got his money?
Trump is a small businessman, that resonates alot with other small businessmen.
That's why I told my father to be sure to leave me a million or two, so I can be a real working class man.
lain:Like most working class, salt of the earth, bring your lunch pail men do.
He plays monopoly with real pieces and isn't averse to shafting the actual working class man when it suits him.
Another rich guy moving pieces on a board. Another guy with some unfortunate tendencies who mostly hid them and who didn't feel compelled to literally tell everyone how much smarter he was in their wheelhouse.
How many people really understand how Trump got his?
Like suggesting a guy who has his millions scattered across enough companies is actually a small investor.
Trump mostly resonated with angry and fearful white people, especially with those who lacked college education.
He dealt with frustrated white people, who could put more into the economy than your average college student.
But thanks for your biased rendition of reality- it really helped get you all out of government, do it again
Is it just me, or did this country do better when there weren't so many uselessly smart people walking around :chuckle:
Because most college students I've met couldn't change a flat on their car.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
How'd it work out?That's why I told my father to be sure to leave me a million or two, so I can be a real working class man.
He eats taco bowls form the grill downstairs, just like anyone else that walks in and orders one.
He employees 23,000 working class men and women. How is employing someone shafting them?
But he lost.
So maybe he wasn't actually smarter.
Trump won and now he is the wheelhouse.
Hotels and casinos are pretty easy to relate to.
Well he is, just over and over again.Like suggesting a guy who has his millions scattered across enough companies is actually a small investor.
Why didn't anyone else think of that? Didn't Hillary have people in charge of thinking of things?
I see you were willing to drink an extra glass of liberal Kool-Aid. Let's face reality, you believe those who voted for Trump were, your basic run- of- the- mill Imbeciles, right? Actually, LEFT, right?
Besides hearsay, can you back up what you theorized?
The immigration issues were part of it. And yes I'm aware of the deportations that have happened during Obama's administration, but he has also supported measures like the Dream Act. That article said that almost 60% of them were criminals. Focusing on criminals makes sense to me. I didn't like the deportation forces that Trump talked about, which I think he has since backed away from.
I've been concerned about what he's said about foreign/military policy. Like torture, nuclear weapons. He seems willing to judge our actions based on what our enemies do instead of the values we should have. He seems to treat alliances as nothing more than a business deal.
I can understand having some reservations about all that. I think "Crazy Trump" is just his beginning position for negotiations.
Well, there is money involved. And we don't have any to be spreading around if it's not needed or effective.
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