toldailytopic: What do you suppose God thinks of the Catholic Church?

[serpentdove]

Priest's "holy" water linger: is just--water. :dizzy:

[Rome Usurps the Sovereignty of God] "Catholic priests are said to be able to do what only God can do, and that is, bring those who are dead in sin to life in Christ. As the priest sprinkles the water of baptism, the baptized is said to be reborn as a new creature, adopted as a son of God, purified of all sin and justified (1263-66). This false teaching violates the sovereign regenerating work of God. Those who become sons of God are born again, "not of blood, or of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1:13). They are saved on the basis of God's purpose and grace (2 Tim. 1:8-9)." Full text: God's Word Exposes Ten Fatal Flaws of Catholicism

 

[Cruciform]

Your religion is blasphemous.

So, then, no rational response to the content of the actual post to which you're supposedly responding. Figures. :yawn:



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[serpentdove]

Have we met? :idunno:

 

[IXOYE]

Amazing how you condemned cat'liks for listening to the POPE and not the HOLY SPIRIT, and you have posted anti catholic rhetoric from biased sources, and not done any of the research yourself. BY definition, you are putting your faith in what a man wrote for you, not what God did.

Any idea how much a flaming idiot you sound.

Your religion is blasphemous. linger:

"As incredulous as this sounds, Catholicism teaches that the resurrected and glorified Jesus Christ returns daily to Catholic alters to be worshipped as a sin offering in the form of a wafer. Its priests are said to have the power to reach up into the heavens and bring Christ down from His throne to be offered again as the Victim for the sins of man. According to Father John O'Brien, in his popular book, The Faith of Millions, "the priest speaks, and Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows his head in humble obedience to the priest's command." This is not only a fatal lie but the most wretched form of blasphemy. The idolatrous worship of a wafer as the true Christ is no different than the idolatrous worship of a golden calf as the true God who delivered the Israelites out of Egypt (Exodus 32:4). Both are hated by God and are punishable by death. The Eucharist is irrefutably and undeniably a false Christ because Scripture declares Jesus will remain in Heaven until He appears "a second time, not to bear sin" (Heb. 9:28)." Full text: God's Word Exposes Ten Fatal Flaws of Catholicism

 

[IXOYE]

Priest's "holy" water linger: is just--water. :dizzy:

[Rome Usurps the Sovereignty of God] "Catholic priests are said to be able to do what only God can do, and that is, bring those who are dead in sin to life in Christ. As the priest sprinkles the water of baptism, the baptized is said to be reborn as a new creature, adopted as a son of God, purified of all sin and justified (1263-66). This false teaching violates the sovereign regenerating work of God. Those who become sons of God are born again, "not of blood, or of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1:13). They are saved on the basis of God's purpose and grace (2 Tim. 1:8-9)." Full text: God's Word Exposes Ten Fatal Flaws of Catholicism

Did you know there is scriptural reasoning for the first two sentences?

You call it false.
It sounds more like you are the man of lesser faith, can't eat meat, and ignore scripture and chastise the one that can.

You don't know what a son of God is. If you are born of God you won't continue to sin in fact you can not sin. That's what scripture says, I figure as long as you are griping about scripture we should hold you to what it says.

Notice how your verse up there says WILL OF GOD? When you say that the quote above can't happen, consider, it's by the WILL OF GOD it occurs according to John, do you have OTHER THINGS GOD CAN NOT DO?

:kookoo:

You are a bigotted, anti Christ, anti Agapao, disgrace.

 

[serpentdove]

"...[L]istening to the Pope and not the Holy Spirit..."

The Pope cannot save anyone. linger: Ga 5:9

[The Deception of Religion by Mike Gendron] "When you ask most religious people what they are trusting to gain entrance into heaven, they rarely mention the name of Jesus. That's because their religion is ultimately the object of their faith. They trust their self righteous clergy and their religious works and rituals to keep them heaven bound. Tragically, they cannot see the glory and sufficiency of Christ Jesus. They have been blinded from the truth of the Gospel by religious indoctrination, a most effective tool of Satan (2 Cor. 4:4). His primary goal is to confuse people by corrupting and mangling truth as much as possible. Many victims of religious indoctrination are content to blindly trust their unregenerate spiritual rulers, who are willfully ignorant of biblical doctrine and are more interested in holding onto their power than seeking the truth. We have found that indoctrination is so powerful that many Catholics refuse to engage in conversations about spiritual issues with non-Catholics. I recall, as a young indoctrinated Catholic, how "lucky" and proud I was to be born into what I was told to be the one true church. I felt sorry for Protestants who were not as "lucky" as I was. So blinded by Catholic traditions, I did not realize my zeal was misdirected. I was honoring God with my lips, but I was submitting to another Lord - a pope." Full text: The Deception of Religion by Mike Gendron

 

[serpentdove]

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, linger: but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life (Ga 6:7-8). oly:

It's not about religion. :dizzy: It's about a relationship with the Lord. :straight:

[The Attraction of Religion Pro-Gospel Ministries] "One of the primary attractions of a religion is its appeal to the flesh. The world tells us that “seeing is believing,” that we must see before we can believe. This explains why it is so easy for religious people to believe what they can see or touch. Catholics worship and consume the Eucharist, a "god" they can see. They go to a priest they can see to receive sacraments they can see to merit the graces necessary for salvation. They light votive candles as a visible sign of their offerings. And yes, they bow down and pray toward statues they can see.

Those who have a relationship with their Savior walk by faith not by sight (2 Cor. 5:7). Since faith is the conviction of things not seen, we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal (Heb. 11:1; 2 Cor. 4:18). Jesus said only those who believe will see the glory of God (John 11:40).

All religions teach that you must do things to appease their god or gods. Every religion has a works-based system of righteousness that instructs its followers as to what they must do to achieve spiritual blessings. This checklist mentality appeals to the natural man, but man's best efforts are but filthy rags in the sight of a holy God (Isa. 64:6). Many do their good works because of their zeal for God but they are ignorant of what God's righteousness demands (Rom. 10:1-4). Christianity is set apart from all religions because its founder has done everything necessary for repenting sinners to have a right relationship with God. Spiritual blessings are available by God's grace to all who trust what Jesus Christ has accomplished through His sinless life, death and resurrection. All religions say "DO" but true Christianity says "DONE." Those who desire an eternal relationship with God must trust in what has been done by the Lord Jesus, apart from anything they do for Him (Ephesians 2:8-9)." Full text: The Attraction of Religion Pro-Gospel Ministries

 

[serpentdove]

You are a bigotted, anti Christ, anti Agapao, disgrace.

Have we met? :idunno:

 

[Cruciform]

The Pope cannot save anyone.

Pope Gendron and his priest, Father serpent, cannot save anyone.


(In any case, serpent's statement is merely a Straw Man Fallacy, since the Catholic Church does not claim that the Pope saves anyone. Nice try, though.)




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[Coffee is King]

I have been to a Roman Catholic church a few times before, and I didn't really understand what was going on. Why do Catholics kneel at an altar with candles and cross themselves? I've seen people make the sign of the cross before, but it looked like people were making this sign all over their faces. Their foreheads, mouth, and chins. Can any Catholic on here tell me why?

 

[Cruciform]

I have been to a Roman Catholic church a few times before, and I didn't really understand what was going on. Why do Catholics kneel at an altar with candles and cross themselves? I've seen people make the sign of the cross before, but it looked like people were making this sign all over their faces. Their foreheads, mouth, and chins. Can any Catholic on here tell me why?

The Sign of the Cross is an ancient form of gestural prayer.



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[Coffee is King]

The Sign of the Cross is an ancient form of gestural prayer.



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Thank you. Unless I didn't see it though, it didn't mention why the cross is made three times on the face.

 

[Cruciform]

Thank you. Unless I didn't see it though, it didn't mention why the cross is made three times on the face.

I'm not familiar with such a thing. At a particular point during the Catholic liturgy (worship service), we make the Sign of the Cross on our foreheads, mouths, and chests, signifying our devotion to God in mind, word, and heart (that is, with the totality of ourselves). Maybe that's what you witnessed.



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[Coffee is King]

I'm not familiar with such a thing. At a particular point during the Catholic liturgy (worship service), we make the Sign of the Cross on our foreheads, mouths, and chests, signifying our devotion to God in mind, word, and heart (that is, with the totality of ourselves). Maybe that's what you witnessed.



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You know what, I'll bet that's what I saw. Thank you for explaining it to me. Do Orthodox Catholics (Eastern Orthodox) do the same, or is it strictly RCC?

 

[Cruciform]

You know what, I'll bet that's what I saw. Thank you for explaining it to me. Do Orthodox Catholics (Eastern Orthodox) do the same, or is it strictly RCC?

Eastern Orthodox Christians use the Sign of the Cross, as do some Lutherans and Anglicans (Episcopalians).



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[serpentdove]

"Pope Gendron and his priest, Father serpent, cannot save anyone..."

Every believer is a priest. :dizzy:

See:

Is the priesthood of all believers biblical? Does the New Testament teach that there should be a formal priesthood?

"Truth is the antidote for willful ignorance, but if ignorance remains after truth is revealed, it is no longer ignorance but stubborn pride that continues to reject the truth.

The greatest obstacle to learning the truth is to think you already know it all.

Failure to embrace and defend truth will always lead to deception. We who have been entrusted with the truth can never let a lie of the devil go unabated." Full text: Exchanging Religion for an Eternal Relationship with God

 

[Cruciform]

Every believer is a priest.

...and, like I said:

"Pope Gendron and his priest, Father serpent, cannot save anyone."​

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[serpentdove]

"Pope Gendron and his priest, Father serpent, cannot save anyone..."

Christians point to Christ and his word (Jn 1:1). oly: Cult and 'isms point to :greedy: themselves (Zep 3:11). linger:

[The End of Religion by Mike Gendron] "The Lord Jesus Christ never came to start a religion, in fact He put an end to the only religion God ever ordained. Ironically, the rulers of this God-ordained religion had become so corrupt they plotted to murder their Messiah (John 11:53). There was no more need for religion after Jesus, the perfect and eternal High Priest offered Himself, the perfect sacrifice, to a perfect God who demands perfection. The veil that once separated sinners from their holy God was torn open from top to bottom (Mat. 27:51). The one mediator between God and man provides access to the Father (1 Tim. 2:5). By faith in the shed blood of Jesus, repentant sinners can enter into the presence of God with confidence (Heb. 10:19-20). No more religion, no more priests offering sacrifices for sin and no more religious rituals or ceremonies. In place of religion, the risen Savior mediates a relationship with God through faith in His one sacrifice for all sin, for all time (Heb. 10:10-18).

Christianity in its purest form is not a religion but a Spirit-sealed relationship with the God of all creation. Catholicism is Christianity in its most debased form. It became corrupt when it denied the finished and all-sufficient work of Jesus and perverted His Gospel. This warped Gospel of works leads people to a Christless eternity. To avoid deception, Christianity instructs people to study the Bible and believe what God says. Religion, on the other hand, requires people to believe what man says God says. When people without discernment, submit to men who are naturally prone to error, they are easily deceived. Catholicism tries to overcome this by declaring its popes are infallible in matters of faith. Christianity is when God's children follow the Lord Jesus, the only one who is immune from error. I will never forget what my uncle, a Catholic priest of 58 years, said after I read to him Scriptures refuting Catholic traditions. He said, "God doesn't mean what He says there; let me tell you what He really means." Full text: The End of Religion by Mike Gendron

 

[Cruciform]

Christians point to Christ and his word.

...but not to serpent's theological preferences and opinions. :nono:

Cult and 'isms point to themselves.

...just as the cult of serpent-ism points to serpent's theological preferences and opinions.



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[serpentdove]

...[T]he cult of serpent-ism points to serpent's theological preferences and opinions...

"Every verse of the Bible means exactly what the author intended it to mean..." Full text: How to Interpret the Bible by Darrell Ferguson

See:

Hermeneutics

Be loyal to the Lord (Jn 1:1) oly: not plans and programs (Mt 15:9). linger:

[The Loyalty of Religion Pro-Gospel Ministries] "Religion stirs up a passionate loyalty to its rulers instead of to the Lord Jesus Christ. Who can forget the images of Pope John Paul II's funeral? Thousands of misguided Catholics stood in long lines for up to 18 hours to venerate a dead man with an unbiblical rosary in his hands and a twisted crucifix by his side. What a sharp contrast to those who have an everlasting relationship with the only Holy Father. They refuse to listen to the voice of robbers who are out to steal and destroy their souls. They flee from them and instead follow the voice of the Good Shepherd who gave His life for His sheep and calls them by name (John 10:3-11). They come to Him for eternal life mourning over the sins that nailed Him to the cross. They recognize their unworthiness to be in His presence, yet they rejoice in the hope they have in His Word (Psalm 130:5). Christ and His Word are so connected that one cannot have a relationship with Him apart from His Word (John 8:47).

Those who desire to have a relationship with the true God must seek Him from the only infallible source for truth. All religious teachings, including teachings in this article, must be tested for veracity by searching the Scriptures (Acts 17:11). Those who cling to religious teachings while rejecting God's Word will be condemned on the last day by the very Word they rejected (John 12:48). Conversely, those who believe the Scriptures have been born again through the incorruptible seed which is the Word of God (1 Pet. 1:23). As children of God, it is their ambition to be pleasing to the one who set them free from the bondage of religion (2 Cor. 5:9-10).

...[W]e must take the same approach Jesus did by refuting religious error and opposing those who spread it. Religion can never save anyone, in fact it cuts them off from God and the saving power of the Gospel (Rom. 1:16; 4:2-8). Let us exhort those who are enslaved to their worthless and empty religions to become privileged slaves of the Lord Jesus Christ." Full text: The Loyalty of Religion