toldailytopic: How does one get to heaven?
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Thanks for admiting two things. You misinterpret, and Paul is saying something different. Your golden parachute of Paul isn't interpreted is a no go.
assuranceagent
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Heaven is going to be a quiet place.
That's not exactly what Luther taught. For if it were, he'd have been right on. What Luther taught, that is at odds with the scripture, is that 'we should sin more that grace may abound.'
There is a distinct difference there that I'm sure you can sort through if you put your heart into it.
Well...we're certainly getting into deep levels of...
...something. :AMR:
Incidentally, which saints have you spoken to of their experiences in purgatory? What did they tell you? Do they ever get that smoky smell outta their clothes? And did you get any autographs?
How big a rosary are we talkin'? :think:
"And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. [32] And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. [34] Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [35] For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:
[36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. [37] Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? [39] Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? [40] And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.
[41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.
[46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting" (Matthew 25:31-46).
To get into Heaven, you have to pass an exam. And there's only two questions on it: Did you love God with all your heart, mind and strength? Did you love your neighbor as yourself? Matthew 22:37-39.
You cannot love your God, whom you cannot see, if you do not love your brother, whom you can see. I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of a favorite charity of mine, and I hope all of you who can donate will donate. Something like 97% of donations goes to feeding, clothing, etc. the poor in third world countries. Remember: whatever you do to them or do not do to them, you've done or not done for Jesus Christ Our Lord, who came into the world as a poor man (2 Corinthians 8:9):
Food For the Poor
[36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. [37] Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? [39] Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? [40] And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.
[41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.
[46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting" (Matthew 25:31-46).
To get into Heaven, you have to pass an exam. And there's only two questions on it: Did you love God with all your heart, mind and strength? Did you love your neighbor as yourself? Matthew 22:37-39.
You cannot love your God, whom you cannot see, if you do not love your brother, whom you can see. I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of a favorite charity of mine, and I hope all of you who can donate will donate. Something like 97% of donations goes to feeding, clothing, etc. the poor in third world countries. Remember: whatever you do to them or do not do to them, you've done or not done for Jesus Christ Our Lord, who came into the world as a poor man (2 Corinthians 8:9):
Food For the Poor
| Whatsoever You Do To The Least Of My People | |
Traditio,
If you're driving home one day and you see smoke billowing over the trees in the distance in the general area of your home, what is your first thought?
As you get closer and see that the source of the smoke is indeed in your neighborhood, what is your next thought?
As you round the corner and are convinced that it's definitely coming from your block, what is your next thought?
The answer to these questions will prove if you love your neighbor as yourself...or not.
Randy
If you're driving home one day and you see smoke billowing over the trees in the distance in the general area of your home, what is your first thought?
As you get closer and see that the source of the smoke is indeed in your neighborhood, what is your next thought?
As you round the corner and are convinced that it's definitely coming from your block, what is your next thought?
The answer to these questions will prove if you love your neighbor as yourself...or not.
Randy
elohiym
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That could only be possible if God's Spirit animated every person on earth, which is the case.
Is that what you believe? :think:
Good idea!
He made it plain!
Paidion
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Did the apostle Paul teach that you had to DO something in order to receive everlasting life? It seems so.
For he will render to everyone according to his works: to those who by perseverance in well‑doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, he will give everlasting life; but for those who are self-seeking and are not persuaded by the truth, but are persuaded by wickedness, there will be wrath and fury.
Affliction and anguish for every person who does evil ... but glory and honour and well-being for every one who does good ... For God shows no partiality. (Romans 2:6-11)
## Become the kind of person who will find that environment natural to live in
Heh! And tell you where your castle and crown will be which is somehow not as good as theirs, ever!
:shocked: uhhh...the wages of sin is DEATH
But Xian maturity comes through works. I know everyone wants to correct Paul on that, bit I think he trumps anyone in here's authority..
I dont think there is a chance with her background to understand where you come from.
He's Catholic, he believes all of that. Glad you cleared that up now. We can get off the.Catholics butts.
Well, I agree 100% with the being made perfect part. Bit Catholics. Are infinitely better than us Protestants. At doing what Scripture. Says to do to be made perfect. Eph 4:12-17.
Basically, the church's leadership is to guide you through works of service so you gain knowledge of Christ, and unity in the church, until you reach the full, complete and thorough perfection/maturity of Jesus on earth had. Yiu better read that slowly before you respond. But that is EXACTLY what the Church of Rome teaches. Never that yiu are saved by works. That is a lying slanderous strawman, or red Herring, depending on the circumstances.
Chrysler. I'm sick and tired of defending you, Xian we fight over something already. The rules of Xianity says we have an unnatural relationship, we agree.