heir
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I tried to show you in short, but you didn't read the post.
toldailytopic: Hate the sin, love the sinner. What are your thoughts on that common s
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It was written by Paul; we are his audience.
And you showed me nothing in the post in which you said it does not apply to us.
I hate to split hairs with a believer, but here it goes.
4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
That's unpossible, according to Jesus.
Isn't that the way it is suppose to be?
Spitfire
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Love the sinner =/= give the sinner your blessing to persist in his/her error.
andyc
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So.....you do believe that Christians can sin when they focus on the flesh. You need to be more consistent.
I have never said otherwise, you deceitful little fool.
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faramir77
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One becomes that into which one is born into, the values, customs, moreas and beliefs of that culture.
a merciful heart of compassion born of pity, understanding the corruption residing within the heart of everyone born into the earth under the Sun.
sadly, they have scant-little understanding of their very own drives and compultions, what motivates them, how easily they can be manipulated and decieved.
Thus thru this lense do i observe them, with pity. Not rendering evil for evil, but blessing them that dispitefully use me. Patiently enduring bitter scorn, effortlessly.
Conforming to Christs image as required, projecting the charater attributes of the most High God as outlined in His Holy Word.
For the natural man neither understands, nor can he understand, the things of God.
Is it any suprise that those taught the ignoble theory they evolved from animals, conduct themsevles as base animals?
a merciful heart of compassion born of pity, understanding the corruption residing within the heart of everyone born into the earth under the Sun.
sadly, they have scant-little understanding of their very own drives and compultions, what motivates them, how easily they can be manipulated and decieved.
Thus thru this lense do i observe them, with pity. Not rendering evil for evil, but blessing them that dispitefully use me. Patiently enduring bitter scorn, effortlessly.
Conforming to Christs image as required, projecting the charater attributes of the most High God as outlined in His Holy Word.
For the natural man neither understands, nor can he understand, the things of God.
Is it any suprise that those taught the ignoble theory they evolved from animals, conduct themsevles as base animals?
genuineoriginal
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No, it means you "hate" God, because God is the one that said that homosexual acts are an abomination worthy of death.
God did not say that homosexuals should be executed. The Bible does.
God did not write the Bible any more than I did. The Bible is a book written by humans .
So you really want the U.S. government to execute gay people just because of an ancient book written during the Bronze Age by primitive Semitic tribesmen living in a time of total ignorance and blind superstition.
Okay, if we're going to execute gay people, why don't we also execute any one caught in adultery, allow parents to kill their children for being disrespectful to them.
and also make it illegal to eat shellfish , to work or do anything on Sunday,
and execute people for wearing clothes with two kinds of fabric on them.
The Bible calls these "abominations" too. Okay, and let's also execute any one who is a Jew, or non-christian,too. Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia or Iran, where they REALLY don't like gay people.
I suppose you're also one of those conservatives who want "limited" government . Some limited government you want.
God did not write the Bible any more than I did. The Bible is a book written by humans .
So you really want the U.S. government to execute gay people just because of an ancient book written during the Bronze Age by primitive Semitic tribesmen living in a time of total ignorance and blind superstition.
Okay, if we're going to execute gay people, why don't we also execute any one caught in adultery, allow parents to kill their children for being disrespectful to them.
and also make it illegal to eat shellfish , to work or do anything on Sunday,
and execute people for wearing clothes with two kinds of fabric on them.
The Bible calls these "abominations" too. Okay, and let's also execute any one who is a Jew, or non-christian,too. Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia or Iran, where they REALLY don't like gay people.
I suppose you're also one of those conservatives who want "limited" government . Some limited government you want.
genuineoriginal
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The God of Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaakov said that a homosexual act is an abomination worthy of death.
You serve a different god.
The LORD doesn’t throw sins, into the cosmic incinerator.
Telling the sinner whose life is filled with gluttony, debauchery, sexual immorality, and idolatry; “all is well” is a clear demonstration of hate.
I like dichotomies, this is my favorite:
The LORD Jesus Christ didn’t command the centurion; to remove the repentant thief, from his cross.
HE’ll not ask us; if the man rotting in prison, has been falsely accused.
Telling the sinner whose life is filled with gluttony, debauchery, sexual immorality, and idolatry; “all is well” is a clear demonstration of hate.
I like dichotomies, this is my favorite:
The LORD Jesus Christ didn’t command the centurion; to remove the repentant thief, from his cross.
HE’ll not ask us; if the man rotting in prison, has been falsely accused.
If you're going to claim something is written in the Bible you should at least provide the verses that say it.
For instance the food laws wherein something was an abomination it was not the eating of that was the abomination, but rather the animal itself; because of what it ate.
And I found nothing referring to mixed linens or working on the Sabbath as an abomination.:nono:
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword...olewordsonly=yes&startnumber=26&startnumber=1
And furthermore, Sunday is not, nor has it ever been, the Sabbath, fool.
And yet still, the verses about stoning a son are clearly in reference to an adult son.
If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear.
-Deuteronomy 21:18-21
As for executing adulterers I have no argument with that idea; I like it.
The question Knight asked concerned unbelievers. That is altogether different from correcting brothers in the faith, but our brothers, we are to correct gently.
Well, I know I'd still be alive.
That is not said concerning a minister of the gospel. He is speaking of a govermental agent whose legal duty is to fully apply the law of a nation. The harshness you suggest is not to be applied by others.
That pertains to unbelievers. It is not our place to correct thiose outside the church. And it is never our place to correct a brother who may have been mistakenly accused. There are those in congregations who are like Satan: eager to place blame and accuse God's people day and night without cause on the basis of false accusations - Satan's favorite favorite thrill!!