This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

fool

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You can't answer the question to fit your agenda, and you know you can't. The fact is white supremacists are well on record for being absolutely on board with Trump - he's their man and they weren't shy about saying it, either. There's only one way you can go with that.

Oh do tell, what's the "only one way you can go"?
 

Town Heretic

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The political correctness movement came out of the work of the Transformational Marxist Frankfurt School on the correlates of the "Authoritarian Personality." They were interested in studying the personality traits of the potential fascist...
So you're basically just here to conspiracy blog. :plain: Okay>

Is that why he only mentioned his race?
No, that was the grandfatherly racist part. The, "You know how those people are" wink at the camera. It was aimed at the audience least likely to consider the implications of it, his followers.

Mexican isn't a race.
The judge wasn't and isn't a Mexican. So that says something about Trump's thought process and tendencies.

There are no genuine human races, but there is still racism. Racism is motivated by the perception of the racist.
True. It's a thin, artificial distinction, but even then it says something about Trump, how he reaches on the point and to what end.
 

rexlunae

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True. It's a thin, artificial distinction, but even then it says something about Trump, how he reaches on the point and to what end.

What I would say is that racism is largely superficial and distinct from any underlying racial realism. Clearly, there are inheritable traits that can be recognized with some level of certainty at a glance, but the process of forming stereotyped presumptions based on that doesn't need an underlying reality to function.
 

fool

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He said that the reason he thought the judge was unable to be fair to him was that "he's Mexican" and "I'm (Trump) building a wall". How is that not questioning the judge's ability to do his job based upon his perceived race?

He's pointing out a conflict of interests. The Judge is a member of La Raza. A Latino advocacy and aid organization.
 

rexlunae

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He's pointing out a conflict of interests. The Judge is a member of La Raza. A Latino advocacy and aid organization.

How does that pose a conflict of interest? Are judges conflicted out of deciding any case with any hypothetical racial component that might intersect with their own ethnic identities? And who would get to decide that?
 

ok doser

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How does that pose a conflict of interest?


Teh-Stupid-Hurts-Mah-Brain.jpg
 

Town Heretic

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He's pointing out a conflict of interests. The Judge is a member of La Raza. A Latino advocacy and aid organization.
Actually and aptly enough, La Raza was founded in response to the stereotyping of people with Spanish surnames, according to immediate past president, Joe Murillo.

"There were judges on the bench saying people with Spanish surnames were prone to be savages," Murillo said. "When we tried to integrate with the mainstream bar association, we were denied. We were marginalized. The only people who were willing to work with us were us."​


In 2004 a Politifact Nexis database search turned up the group issued a strong letter at that time calling for the ending of an LA show that had illegals competing for the services of a lawyer and a green card. Their complaint?
"[The show] functions as a magnet to encourage people to enter this country without documentation.


The bylaws indicate the group is concerned with:
"The purpose and goal of this association is to promote the interests of the Latino communities throughout the state and the professional interests of the membership."


It's membership, according to Murillo, is about half Latino. The conservative Red State called Trump's attempt to dishonest and noted that the attempt by Trump is to associate Curiel with the radical left wing and immigration driven group, the National Council of La Raza, with which the jurist has no association instead of La Raza, which is essentially the Latino bar of California.

He's a member of La Raza.
Which isn't a Mexican organization.
 

fool

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How does that pose a conflict of interest? Are judges conflicted out of deciding any case with any hypothetical racial component that might intersect with their own ethnic identities? And who would get to decide that?

Not Ethnic Identity, Organization Membership.
 

northwye

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Quote Originally Posted by northwye View Post
"The political correctness movement came out of the work of the Transformational Marxist Frankfurt School on the correlates of the "Authoritarian Personality." They were interested in studying the personality traits of the potential fascist...
So you're basically just here to conspiracy blog. Okay>"

This is an example of use of the dialectic rather than being a substantive argument. And it is not a good idea to get into a quarrel over such a use of the dialectic.
 

annabenedetti

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We finally know what counts as "too racist for Breitbart"

A Breitbart writer was reportedly fired after remarks that suggested the UK would have been terrorism-free if it had restricted Muslims from residing there.

She made the remarks following the terror attack in London on Saturday, which killed seven and injured at least 48. The terror group Islamic State has claimed credit for the attack, and British police have identified two of the three men behind the attack as Khuram Shazad Butt and Rachid Redouane.

According sources who confirmed the firing to CNN, Katie McHugh was dismissed after tweeting, "There would be no deadly terror attacks in the U.K. if Muslims didn’t live there." She then incorrectly identified the race of actor Pej Vahdat, who called her a “moron” for making the remarks.





I guess she's never heard of the IRA.



Other tweets by McHugh:

Mexicans wrecked Mexico & think invading the USA will magically cure them them of their retarded dysfunction. LOL.

Another Crusade would do a lot of good. Let’s turn Mecca into a strip mall!
 

Town Heretic

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Pot calling kettle, oh pot calling kettle
Except that a) I haven't refused to engage and b) have routinely posted to multiple sources for information that aren't speculative in nature in addition to putting forth constructive arguments founded in reason and inviting reason in return.

Which is a way of suggesting your analogy is as thin as your skin, apparently.

You're reduced to this sort of drive-by grousing and erroneous declaration.
 

annabenedetti

like marbles on glass
Except that a) I haven't refused to engage and b) have routinely posted to multiple sources for information that aren't speculative in nature in addition to putting forth constructive arguments founded in reason and inviting reason in return.

You're reduced to this sort of drive-by grousing and erroneous declaration.


northwye won't engage in a discussion, since he views "the dialectic" as being somewhere far below the lofty heights of robotic assertion.
 

fool

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Which isn't a Mexican organization.
http://sdlrla.com/about/mission-statement/
From their mission statement:

• Strongly advocate positions on judicial, economic and social issues to political leaders and state and local bar associations that impact the Latino community.

Now let's take this slowly.
Trump is before this judge while running for President on a platform that includes building a wall on the Mexican border and deporting the Illegals.

Do you think those things "Impact the Latino Community?
 
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