You're 100% right on.
The Trinity
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You're 100% right on.
What? Can't you be logical/reasonable? You've shown no proof in
this post. And, if you see it, you're hallucinating.
genuineoriginal
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Naming three different persons does not imply plurality or trinity.
genuineoriginal
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Wouldn't that be expected considering that you have shown over and over again that you are not capable of seeing a point?
genuineoriginal
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I believe in what the scripture actually teaches, which is not a Trinity doctrine.
The scripture teaches that regardless of whether there are other gods, we are to worship the Father alone as the only true God and to obey Jesus as our Lord appointed by the Father.
Whether Jesus is another god, or whether Jesus and the Father together make one god, or whether Jesus and the Father combined with something or someone else make one god does not matter since the only relationship taught by the Bible is that Jesus is the Son of God and the Father is God.
As long as I worship the Father alone as the only true God and obey Jesus as our Lord appointed by the Father as scripture teaches us to do, I have no problems.
Most Unitarians do believe in the deity of Christ.
They just use the common definition for deity instead of the special definition invented by Trinitarians to support the Trinity doctrine.
That is a lie, and you should stop lying about Unitarians.
genuineoriginal
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If that is the only verse you have that you believe calls the Holy Spirit God, then you are misunderstanding what it says.
genuineoriginal
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If that is so, then Jesus went to great lengths to convince His disciples that He was not ONE God with the Father and only had AUTHORITY because the Father gave Him that authority.
John 10:25 25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. |
John 5:26-27 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. |
genuineoriginal
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There are more verses in the Bible showing other gods than there are verses that can be twisted to support the Trinity.
You are trying to believe a minority report instead of the majority of scripture, which means you flat out reject more scripture than you are accusing me of rejecting.
genuineoriginal
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genuineoriginal
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Church history shows that the doctrine of the Binity was formulated at the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE.
In the Council of Constantinople in 381 CE, the doctrine of the Trinity was formulated.
popsthebuilder
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Why do you call the Holy spirit a person? Also, someone said it had a mind as if confined to human thought processes or ability
Is there scripture to show these things?
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popsthebuilder
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Please don't assume things.
Firstly, I was saved as an atheist without ever going into a church or opening a bible until years later. Basically, false doctrine wasn't jammed down my throat through early childhood like most who actually have been lead astray. Secondly, I do believe in the trinity.
I also know that man is creation. And that worshipping any man as if consubstsntial to the One Creator GOD is horribly flawed and has caused all major atrocities throughout history. Show me where it says the Holy Spirit is a person.
One more thing.
I am a Christian; as such I attempt to spread the gospel, not condemn my brothers to damnation.
You should really put aside your pride, and try to follow the teachings OF Christ if you think he is, and always was, in the flesh, utterly equivalent to GOD, rather than his Son.
You make faulty distinctions in bigoted hypocrisy all while claiming to be a true Christian.
May God guide you.
Peace
How many times do I have to post it.
The Spirit has;
a mind, Romans 8:27
a will, 1 Corinthians 12:11
He speaks, Acts 8:29, 13:1
He loves, Romans 15:20
He grieves, Ephesians 4:30
He prays, Romans 8:26
Forces do not do those things, persons do.
popsthebuilder
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I'm sorry you take the direction of GOD placed on our hearts by the Holy Spirit, by way of the teachings, example, and self sacrifice of the one true Christ lightly.
It is the only subject to me, and I assure you; I do not take it lightly, or jokingly.
Saying I'm silly seems like a poor attempt to not refute what I say with scripture, but to pretend light heartedly, to sidestep it.
It's ok.
Peace
popsthebuilder
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What did you say to me, you...
I will have you know that I have read and attempt my best to adhere to more scriptures than you surely.
Fact is I don't add or remove from the word of GOD, be it through the Bible or other scriptures, or what has been placed on my heart directly by the
Holy Spirit, through the grace of God available to all by way of the Son of GOD.
The entire bible is chocked full of verse after verse about repentance, and truly believing with all your heart and loving with all your heart. To actually believe is to believe wholly. To wholly love GOD is to be without contention in he direction.
So tell me do you habitually transgress against yourself, or the commands of God, regardless of how you received them?
Do you get dressed up and go to "church" only to, afterward go back to habitual sin?
Do you use that tired old misdirection that Christ paid for all sins that you may continue in sin while proclaiming the word of GOD.
I generally have a lot of patience, but admittedly you are wearing on them.
If you can't answer my questions, and stop assuming that you know anything about my adherence to the narrow path, or my reasons, then don't waist out time responding.
I'm here to come together under GOD by way of Christ along with any other I can help. I'm sorry you have a problem with that.
You should really work on expelling that contentious, sense of privilege you seem to be clinging onto so tightly, that the vail of deceit may finally be lifted from your eyes, and then you can actually spread the good news instead of thinking you're condemning others while really only burying yourself.
As always, I wish you the best with peace, the humility has taken a momentary break, for that I apologize, it is needed to be blunt sometimes.
popsthebuilder
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Too bad the gates are narrow for the true believer, and broad for the wayward.
Herd mentality is not a good thing friend.
popsthebuilder
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That is a very broad and erroneous statement.
popsthebuilder
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Two can play that. Stop being deceitful
U·ni·tar·i·an
ˌyo͞onəˈterēən/
noun
THEOLOGY
1.
a person, especially a Christian, who asserts the unity of God and rejects the doctrine of the Trinity.