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Here is another question for you:
Who circumcises our heart, Jesus or the Holy Spirit?
Who circumcises our heart, Jesus or the Holy Spirit?
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What is the matter Apple7?
I have many more for you.
Will you answer the questions and answer with scripture?
I have many more for you.
Will you answer the questions and answer with scripture?
God's Truth
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Marhig, can you answer that question?
Apple7
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If I post in Greek, you have absolutely no idea what is going on...
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Google has a translator.
Go ahead, post your scripture in the language you want to try to trick us with.
Apple7
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Why is that it didn't work for you before?
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Enough playing games. Just give me the scripture or scriptures that says who intercedes for us. In addition, I want the scripture from you that says who circumcises our hearts.
Apple7
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Using the original languages of scripture is NOT a trick.
Unless, of course, you don't have a clue, yourself...:readthis:
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Waiting for the scriptures from the judge Apple7.
Apple7
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Sure thing...just as soon as you reply to the six posts of mine that were in queue before you felt like tossing out demands...
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Apple7 refuses to answer the question.
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Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same.
That is why some scriptures will say Jesus intercedes for us, and some scriptures says the Holy Spirit intercedes.
The Spirit intercedes for us.
See Romans 8:26, 27.
Jesus intercedes for us.
See Hebrews 7:25, Romans 8:34.
That is why some scriptures will say Jesus intercedes for us, and some scriptures says the Holy Spirit intercedes.
The Spirit intercedes for us.
See Romans 8:26, 27.
Jesus intercedes for us.
See Hebrews 7:25, Romans 8:34.
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Who circumcises our hearts, Jesus or the Holy Spirit?
There is a scripture that says Jesus does, and another scripture that says the Holy Spirit does.
They are interchangeably because they are one and the same.
Jesus circumcises our hearts
Colossians 2:11 In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ,
The Holy Spirit circumcises our hearts
Romans 2:29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.
There is a scripture that says Jesus does, and another scripture that says the Holy Spirit does.
They are interchangeably because they are one and the same.
Jesus circumcises our hearts
Colossians 2:11 In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ,
The Holy Spirit circumcises our hearts
Romans 2:29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.
Apple7
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You throw out a word that is not even in the Bible.
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Apple7 says Jesus and the Holy Spirit are different/distinct, but he cannot explain how Jesus and the Holy Spirit are used interchangeably in the scriptures.
marhig
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John 3 15:18
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.*For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.*He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
It says in those verses that whosever believes in Jesus should not perish, so how can you judge others as going to hell because they don't believe as you do? Yet they believe in Jesus and love him and God the father with their whole heart?
I do believe in the name of the only begotten son of God. I just don't believe in a triune God! Nothing there suggests that we must believe in a trinity or we go to hell! But that are to believe in Jesus Christ whom God has sent!
You say those verses mean that those who don't believe in a trinity are going to hell, yet Jesus says that it's those who don't believe in him who are condemned, and many who don't believe in a triune God love Jesus.
Now here's verses 19-21
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.*For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.*But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
If we're walking in the light, the spirit will show is our faults and sins, and if we are truly following Jesus, then we will be fighting to deny them. And once we start to turn away and suffer denying our flesh, Christ by the spirit will give us the strength to overcome.
It's those people, who after knowing the way of Christ and hearing the word of God and still follow the lusts of their flesh, they are those who are condemned, not those who love God and Christ with all their heart and follow Jesus daily, it says nothing in those verses that show that if we don't believe in a triune God that we are going to hell!
And even though there are those who don't believe in Jesus, we shouldn't be condemning them to hell, rather we should have the hope that one day they will believe in him and repent.
marhig
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Yes, God is love, do you believe this?
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I do believe it.
Now tell me, do you believe Jesus is love?
You say Jesus is not God. That is why I ask.
Apple7
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Each is the One God.
Each is NOT the other.
The Trinity.
How many times do we need to go over this...?