The Trinity

[Apple7]

You want to give me your worthless opinions about me instead of talk about the scriptures.

Impress us by exegeting the scriptures that you posited...in lieu of feeling sorry for yourself..

 

[God's Truth]

You don't even take scripture serious enough to study it in the original languages, nor context.

What exactly would you know about blasphemy?

God never ever tells anyone that they have to learn another language to know Him.

You are preaching wrongly.

 

[Apple7]

You can look to dictionaries that give meanings picked out from mistaken men, but I will believe what the Bible says.

THERE. IS. ONLY. ONE. SPIRIT.

Since there is only one Spirit, tell me how you say the Spirit of God is different than the Spirit of Christ?

Scripture?

 

[Apple7]

God never ever tells anyone that they have to learn another language to know Him.

You are preaching wrongly.

Please show us a circa 2K year old English Bible.:cigar:

 

[God's Truth]

Scripture?

Ephesians 2:18
For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink

When we are saved, we receive the Holy Spirit, see Acts 5:32.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, see 2 Corinthians 6:16.

The scriptures also tell us that when we are saved Jesus lives inside us, see 2 Corinthians 13:5.

How do you think that we have three in us if they are not all the same?

There is only one Spirit, see Ephesians 4:4.

Jesus is God and Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

 

[Apple7]

Ephesians 2:18
For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.


When we are saved, we receive the Holy Spirit, see Acts 5:32.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, see 2 Corinthians 6:16.

The scriptures also tell us that when we are saved Jesus lives inside us, see 2 Corinthians 13:5.

How do you think that we have three in us if they are not all the same?

There is only one Spirit, see Ephesians 4:4.

Jesus is God and Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

None of your passages state the Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

Pick your very best example and explain how you think that it does.

Good luck...

 

[Ask Mr. Religion]

The scriptures say there is ONLY ONE GOD and that He is the Father.

Since Jesus is God, then he must also be that God the Father.

Back so soon?

Your errors have been discussed and shown for what they are:

http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...thread-for-AMR-and-God-s-Truth-Trinity-Debate

AMR

 

[God's Truth]

None of your passages state the Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

Pick your very best example and explain how you think that it does.

Good luck...

I will give you more scriptures, but you need to address the ones that I have already given you.

 

[marhig]

Actually, it does, everywhere you look.

Can you show me where it actually says that of you don't believe in a triune God you go to hell please?

 

[God's Truth]

Back so soon?

Your errors have been discussed and shown for what they are:

http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...thread-for-AMR-and-God-s-Truth-Trinity-Debate

AMR

You are a legend in your own mind.

 

[Apple7]

I will give you more scriptures, but you need to address the ones that I have already given you.

No.

You need to pick one verse and defend it.

But...you can't.

 

[God's Truth]

Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

Jesus is a life giving Spirit, see 1 Corinthians 15:45 So it is written: The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit.

That scripture says Jesus is a SPIRIT.


This scripture says the Spirit gives life; see 2 Corinthians 3:6. Jesus gives life! John 5:21.


Read this scripture:

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

That scripture SAYS the Lord is the Spirit.

Jesus is the Spirit. All these scriptures tell us Jesus is the Spirit. Revelation 2:7, 8, 11, 17, 29; 3:6, 13, 22; 14:13; 22:17.

 

[God's Truth]

No.

You need to pick one verse and defend it.

But...you can't.

I am giving milk and meat. Some people are dead and cannot handle either.

 

[Apple7]

Can you show me where it actually says that of you don't believe in a triune God you go to hell please?

ινα πας ο πιστευων εν αυτω εχη ζωην αιωνιον ουτως γαρ γαπησεν ο θεος τον κοσμον ωστε τον υιον τον μονογενη εδωκεν ινα πας ο πιστευων εις αυτον μη αποληται αλλ εχη ζωην αιωνιον ου γαρ απεστειλεν ο θεος τον υιον εις τον κοσμον ινα κρινη τον κοσμον αλλ ινα σωθη ο κοσμος δι αυτου ο πιστευων εις αυτον ου κρινεται ο μη πιστευων ηδη κεκριται οτι μη πεπιστευκεν εις το ονομα του μονογενους υιου του θεου

 

[marhig]

ινα πας ο πιστευων εν αυτω εχη ζωην αιωνιον ουτως γαρ γαπησεν ο θεος τον κοσμον ωστε τον υιον τον μονογενη εδωκεν ινα πας ο πιστευων εις αυτον μη αποληται αλλ εχη ζωην αιωνιον ου γαρ απεστειλεν ο θεος τον υιον εις τον κοσμον ινα κρινη τον κοσμον αλλ ινα σωθη ο κοσμος δι αυτου ο πιστευων εις αυτον ου κρινεται ο μη πιστευων ηδη κεκριται οτι μη πεπιστευκεν εις το ονομα του μονογενους υιου του θεου

In English please, if you will.

 

[God's Truth]

Scriptures that say Jesus is the Spirit:

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom

 

[Apple7]

I am giving milk and meat. Some people are dead and cannot handle either.

Your theology of the Father being the Son being the Spirit does not have any scriptural support, brother.

Scripture clearly and plainly shows that they are not each other, as thus…


• The Father is not the Son (John 3.17, 35; 5.22-23, 31-32; 8.16-18; 11.41-42; 12.28; 14.31; 17.1-26; Rom. 1.7; 1 Cor. 1.3; 15.24-28; 2 Cor. 1.2; Gal. 1.3; 4.4; Eph. 1.2; 6.23; Phil. 1.2; 1 Thess. 1.1; 2 Thess. 1.1-2; 1 Tim. 1.1-2; 2 Tim. 1.2; Tit. 1.4; Philemon 1.3; James 1.1; 2 Pet. 1.2; 1 John 4.10; 2 John 3)

• The Father is not the Spirit (Mat 28.19; John 14.16, 15.26; Romans 8.26-27; Luke 3.21-22)

• The Son is not the Spirit (Mat 28.19; John 14.16, 15.26, 16.7)

 

[God's Truth]

Your theology of the Father being the Son being the Spirit does not have any scriptural support, brother.

Scripture clearly and plainly shows that they are not each other, as thus…


• The Father is not the Son (John 3.17, 35; 5.22-23, 31-32; 8.16-18; 11.41-42; 12.28; 14.31; 17.1-26; Rom. 1.7; 1 Cor. 1.3; 15.24-28; 2 Cor. 1.2; Gal. 1.3; 4.4; Eph. 1.2; 6.23; Phil. 1.2; 1 Thess. 1.1; 2 Thess. 1.1-2; 1 Tim. 1.1-2; 2 Tim. 1.2; Tit. 1.4; Philemon 1.3; James 1.1; 2 Pet. 1.2; 1 John 4.10; 2 John 3)

• The Father is not the Spirit (Mat 28.19; John 14.16, 15.26; Romans 8.26-27; Luke 3.21-22)

• The Son is not the Spirit (Mat 28.19; John 14.16, 15.26, 16.7)

You cannot nullify scripture with scripture. I gave you scripture that says plainly THE LORD IS THE SPIRIT.

I can give you many scriptures that use Jesus and the Holy Spirit interchangeably.

Do you know what that means?

 

[Apple7]

Scriptures that say Jesus is the Spirit:

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom

2 Cor 3.16 - 18

Moreover, whenever it turns to (the) Lord, the veil is taken away. Moreover, The Spirit is (the) Lord; moreover, where The Spirit Lord (is), there (is) liberty. Moreover, we all (with our) face having been unveiled, having beheld The Glory of (the) Lord, beholding as in a mirror; are being transformed (into) the same image from glory to glory, as from (the) Lord Spirit.

No.

The context of your example actually states the exact opposite, via the usage of arthrous substantives.

 

[God's Truth]

2 Cor 3.16 - 18

Moreover, whenever it turns to (the) Lord, the veil is taken away. Moreover, The Spirit is (the) Lord; moreover, where The Spirit Lord (is), there (is) liberty. Moreover, we all (with our) face having been unveiled, having beheld The Glory of (the) Lord, beholding as in a mirror; are being transformed (into) the same image from glory to glory, as from (the) Lord Spirit.

No.

The context of your example actually states the exact opposite, via the usage of arthrous substantives.

You cannot get out of it. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom