Sorry kiwi, but ignorant/uninformed comments such as the one you just posted belong in the politically correct MLK Jr. thread, started by left-winger annabenedetti.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94745
The Politically Incorrect Truth About Martin Luther King Jr.
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Sorry kiwi, but ignorant/uninformed comments such as the one you just posted belong in the politically correct MLK Jr. thread, started by left-winger annabenedetti.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94745
Arthur Brain
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Oh great, cue more nonsense from TOL's resident pompous crank. How many white supremacist nutball sites can we expect as 'source material' this time around Connie?
I'm currently talking about the white supremacists that run Planned Parenthood and how it's founder attended a KKK meeting and had ties to Adolf Hitler's Nazi Party.
Feel free to join in the discussion, or you could wait until I present something that will undoubtedly pique your interest:
Martin Luther King Jr.'s 'taste' for someone of the same sex.
TracerBullet
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To bad she never said this.
Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated.
Unknown source, attributed by Life Education and Resource Network (LEARN) [20] and by Roger L. Roberson, Jr, The Bible & the Black Man: Breaking the Chains of Prejudice (2007), p. 18.
Seems to take words from "a garden of children instead of a disorderly back lot overrun with human weeds" and "we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea" in order to attribute a racial eliminationist position to Sanger.
From Factcheck.org: "Sanger’s first clinic, opened in 1916, was in Brooklyn in a neighborhood called Brownsville, which was 80 percent to 85 percent Jewish in 1910 and 1920, according to author Wendell E. Pritchett’s “Brownsville, Brooklyn: Blacks, Jews & the Changing Face of the Ghetto.” Cathy Moran Hajo writes that the neighborhood was “populated largely by Italians and Eastern European Jews” in “Birth Control on Main Street: Organizing Clinics in the United States, 1916-1939.” She says that Sanger didn’t choose to open her first clinic in Harlem, where infant and mother mortality rates were similar to those of Brownsville.
In fact, early birth control clinics didn’t welcome black women with open arms, Hajo writes: “In the 1920s and early 1930s, African Americans had far more limited access to birth control than did white women. Not only did many clinics discriminate against black women, but the regions with the largest black populations had fewer clinics.”
Sanger opened a clinic in Harlem in 1930, and, as mentioned, the “Negro Project” began in the late 1930s."
and it needs to be noted that these clinics focused on birth control and not abortion.
“While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization,” Margaret Sanger
Poor Marge, like annabennedetti implied in earlier posts, she's just misunderstood by us right wing homophobic racists.
As mentioned many times before: Martin Luther King Jr., had access to Margaret Sanger's writings and the people she associated with (if he didn't, he could have asked co- Sanger award recipient President Lyndon Baines Johnson to investigate her before accepting the Planned Parenthood/Sanger award).
More on that poor misunderstood founder of Planned Parenthood:
The Negro Project was initiated in 1939 by Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. It was a collaborative effort between the American Birth Control League and Sanger’s Birth Control Clinical Research Bureau.1 For a eugenist, it wasn’t controversial, it was integral to the implementation of eugenics to eliminate the ‘unfit’. Eugenics is “a science that deals with the improvement (as by control of human mating) of hereditary qualities of a race or breed”.2 Negative eugenics focused on preventing the birth of those it considered inferior or unfit. This was the foundation of Sanger’s Birth Control Policy and advocated throughout her writings, speeches, and her periodicals including “Pivot of Civilization”, “Plan for Peace” and countless Birth Control Review articles. The pseudo-science (racial hygiene theory) of negative eugenics influenced social policy and eugenics-based legislation (Immigration Act of 19243, segregation laws, sterilization laws) and led to the racial hygiene theory adopted by the Nazis. Noted eugenist, Eugen Fischer, who was funded by The Rockefeller Foundation (one of many same organizations that also financially supported Sanger’s work), was responsible for the Nazi adoption of racial hygiene theory at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute that led to the eugenics implementation of the holocaust.4 The connection between American Eugenics and the horrors of Nazi Germany are irrefutable. The preponderance of evidence of where Sanger wanted to go (although she decried the atrocities of the holocaust after WWII) shows the ignorance and naivete of eugenics philosophy and its eventual conclusion, left undeterred. The Negro Project was but a precursor to what eugenists wanted to implement on a much larger scale.
http://www.toomanyaborted.com/thenegroproject/
More on the fraud that shouldn't be spoke of highly, let alone given a national holiday.
King was involved in illicit homosexual unions – Carl Rowan, a black syndicated columnist was outraged when he had learned about the bugging of King’s hotel rooms and that there was "at least 15 reels of tape about sexual entertainment and conversations between King and Abernathy that might lead to the conclusion that there was a homosexual relationship between the two ministers." (Breaking Barriers: A Memoir by Carl Rowan – Boston: Little, Brown, and Company 1991) he blamed the bugging on Hoover until learning it was actually done at the urging of Bobby Kennedy. Tony Brown, a black talk show host, described in his book The Worst Kind of Uncle Tom, a reported instance between King and Abernathy . Using black street slang, King asks Abernathy to move closer so that oral sex can be performed. (We won’t print the actual quote)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0a_1221709982#Pg2SeQasBajRhAi4.99
I have one word for the above paragraph:
Ewwwwwwwww.
More from the above article:
At the Riverside Church in New York City on April 4, 1967, King said that U.S. servicemen serving in Vietnam were "like Nazis" and that U.S. servicemen were "the greatest purveyors of violence in the word today!" This statement disgraces all servicemen – white or black. Life Magazine of April 21, 1967 described King’s speech as a "a demagogic slander that sounded like a script for Radio Hanoi!"
King supported Red China’s admission to the UN and said that Americans should "not engage in a negative anti-communism." (Congressional Record May 2, 1967 p. H4973)
Communists in the U.S. were told to rally behind King. The U.S. Congressional Record of March 30, 1965 quotes Karl Prussian, a FBI counterspy inside the Communist Party. "At all of these Communist Party meetings Rev. Martin Luther King was always set forth as the individual to whom Communists should rally around."
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0a_1221709982#v8sYUVt8LFrYbTFf.99
Did anyone following this thread lose a loved one (dad, brother, uncle or friend) in Vietnam? I doubt that you eve considered them a "Nazi" like that despicable Martin Luther King Jr. did.
King was involved in illicit homosexual unions – Carl Rowan, a black syndicated columnist was outraged when he had learned about the bugging of King’s hotel rooms and that there was "at least 15 reels of tape about sexual entertainment and conversations between King and Abernathy that might lead to the conclusion that there was a homosexual relationship between the two ministers." (Breaking Barriers: A Memoir by Carl Rowan – Boston: Little, Brown, and Company 1991) he blamed the bugging on Hoover until learning it was actually done at the urging of Bobby Kennedy. Tony Brown, a black talk show host, described in his book The Worst Kind of Uncle Tom, a reported instance between King and Abernathy . Using black street slang, King asks Abernathy to move closer so that oral sex can be performed. (We won’t print the actual quote)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0a_1221709982#Pg2SeQasBajRhAi4.99
I have one word for the above paragraph:
Ewwwwwwwww.
More from the above article:
At the Riverside Church in New York City on April 4, 1967, King said that U.S. servicemen serving in Vietnam were "like Nazis" and that U.S. servicemen were "the greatest purveyors of violence in the word today!" This statement disgraces all servicemen – white or black. Life Magazine of April 21, 1967 described King’s speech as a "a demagogic slander that sounded like a script for Radio Hanoi!"
King supported Red China’s admission to the UN and said that Americans should "not engage in a negative anti-communism." (Congressional Record May 2, 1967 p. H4973)
Communists in the U.S. were told to rally behind King. The U.S. Congressional Record of March 30, 1965 quotes Karl Prussian, a FBI counterspy inside the Communist Party. "At all of these Communist Party meetings Rev. Martin Luther King was always set forth as the individual to whom Communists should rally around."
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0a_1221709982#v8sYUVt8LFrYbTFf.99
Did anyone following this thread lose a loved one (dad, brother, uncle or friend) in Vietnam? I doubt that you eve considered them a "Nazi" like that despicable Martin Luther King Jr. did.
TracerBullet
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no, right wing homophobic racists are attributing quotes to her that she never said.
He did have access to her writings and she was never shy about speaking her mind publicly. King obviously knew about Sanger and planned parenthood - There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts." M.L. King 1966
to bad the facts don't support any of this.
Sanger advocated for black doctors and ministers to play leadership roles in the Negro Project to avoid misunderstandings. Lynchings and Jim Crow laws gave blacks good reason to be wary of attempts to limit the number of children they bore. In Harlem, she hired a black doctor and social worker to quell those fears.
as for eugenics: ""the purpose of eugenics was to improve the human race by having people be more healthy through exercise, recreation in parks, marriage to someone free from sexually transmitted diseases, well-baby clinics, immunizations, clean food and water, proper nutrition, non-smoking and drinking." Ruth Eng
Sanger herself opposed racism and segregation, evidence for which can be found through out her writings
TracerBullet
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:chuckle:
well of course they won't print the actual quote, wouldn't want their readers to learn that "Are you done reading the sports page?" is black slang for "Oh Baby!" :rotfl:
Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Poor Marge, like annabennedetti implied in earlier posts, she's just misunderstood by us right wing homophobic racists.
Like this one?
"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
(Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
As mentioned many times before: Martin Luther King Jr., had access to Margaret Sanger's writings and the people she associated with (if he didn't, he could have asked co- Sanger award recipient President Lyndon Baines Johnson to investigate her before accepting the Planned Parenthood/Sanger award).
So King knew about Sanger meeting with the Klan and her ties to the Nazi's through eugenics? Thanks for acknowledging that.
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
More on that poor misunderstood founder of Planned Parenthood:
The Negro Project was initiated in 1939 by Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. It was a collaborative effort between the American Birth Control League and Sanger’s Birth Control Clinical Research Bureau. For a eugenist, it wasn’t controversial, it was integral to the implementation of eugenics to eliminate the ‘unfit’...
Poor misunderstood Marge: She really met with the KKK (and received a dozen invitations afterwards from like minded groups) because she was attempting to talk them out of their racist ideology (while pushing memberships for 24 Hour Fitness clubs).
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Poor Marge, like annabennedetti implied in earlier posts, she's just misunderstood by us right wing homophobic racists.
Like this one?
"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
(Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
As mentioned many times before: Martin Luther King Jr., had access to Margaret Sanger's writings and the people she associated with (if he didn't, he could have asked co- Sanger award recipient President Lyndon Baines Johnson to investigate her before accepting the Planned Parenthood/Sanger award).
So King knew about Sanger meeting with the Klan and her ties to the Nazi's through eugenics? Thanks for acknowledging that.
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
More on that poor misunderstood founder of Planned Parenthood:
The Negro Project was initiated in 1939 by Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. It was a collaborative effort between the American Birth Control League and Sanger’s Birth Control Clinical Research Bureau. For a eugenist, it wasn’t controversial, it was integral to the implementation of eugenics to eliminate the ‘unfit’...
Poor misunderstood Marge: She really met with the KKK (and received a dozen invitations afterwards from like minded groups) because she was attempting to talk them out of their racist ideology (while pushing memberships for 24 Hour Fitness clubs).
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
More on the fraud that shouldn't be spoke of highly, let alone given a national holiday.
King was involved in illicit homosexual unions – Carl Rowan, a black syndicated columnist was outraged when he had learned about the bugging of King’s hotel rooms and that there was "at least 15 reels of tape about sexual entertainment and conversations between King and Abernathy that might lead to the conclusion that there was a homosexual relationship between the two ministers." (Breaking Barriers: A Memoir by Carl Rowan – Boston: Little, Brown, and Company 1991) he blamed the bugging on Hoover until learning it was actually done at the urging of Bobby Kennedy. Tony Brown, a black talk show host, described in his book The Worst Kind of Uncle Tom, a reported instance between King and Abernathy . Using black street slang, King asks Abernathy to move closer so that oral sex can be performed. (We won’t print the actual quote)
I have to admit that it was a surprise to me that MLK Jr. was a faggot. After all, he loved his women prostitutes (and occasionally beat one up).
Being a student of the LGBTQueer movement, you must know of King's ties to Bayard Rustin? (who I'd talked about earlier in the thread).
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3766277&postcount=205
More on the fraud that shouldn't be spoke of highly, let alone given a national holiday.
King was involved in illicit homosexual unions – Carl Rowan, a black syndicated columnist was outraged when he had learned about the bugging of King’s hotel rooms and that there was "at least 15 reels of tape about sexual entertainment and conversations between King and Abernathy that might lead to the conclusion that there was a homosexual relationship between the two ministers." (Breaking Barriers: A Memoir by Carl Rowan – Boston: Little, Brown, and Company 1991) he blamed the bugging on Hoover until learning it was actually done at the urging of Bobby Kennedy. Tony Brown, a black talk show host, described in his book The Worst Kind of Uncle Tom, a reported instance between King and Abernathy . Using black street slang, King asks Abernathy to move closer so that oral sex can be performed. (We won’t print the actual quote)
I have to admit that it was a surprise to me that MLK Jr. was a faggot. After all, he loved his women prostitutes (and occasionally beat one up).
Being a student of the LGBTQueer movement, you must know of King's ties to Bayard Rustin? (who I'd talked about earlier in the thread).
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3766277&postcount=205
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TracerBullet
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No, that was just taken out of context.
And he recognized that she was neither a racist or a Nazi
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
More on that poor misunderstood founder of Planned Parenthood:
That is closer to the truth than anything else you've said about her
TracerBullet
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are you going to start claiming he was yet another founder of NAMBLA?
For you Washingtonians that are following this thread: Tomorrow (Tuesday January 19, 12 noon) is the annual March For Life rally at the State Capitol in Olympia.
I hope to see you there!
http://www.washingtonmarchforlife.org/
I hope to see you there!
http://www.washingtonmarchforlife.org/
Arthur Brain
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Why MLK Would Have Opposed ‘Gay Marriage’
By Matt Barber
http://barbwire.com/2016/01/18/why-mlk-would-have-opposed-gay-marriage/
As shown by the above article and the tweet by Ted Cruz, many on the right either have no knowledge of MLK Jr.'s past or look the other way, perhaps not wanting to sever ties with good people like Dr. Alveda King, MLK's Christian niece who is a powerful figure in the pro life movement.
Hopefully someday the truth about this evil male (I don't use the word "man" because he wasn't one) will come out and all will see what he stood for.
Arthur Brain
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And of course sources like "Creativity Movement" etc are the veritable bastions of objective truth...
Schmuck...
This Charming Manc
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Thanks for reminding me Art, I have around 50 or more pages from that pdf document (entered into the Congressional Record) that I still need to share. When you can refute any of the information (like black pastors chasing King out of their towns; King calling our boys bravely fighting in Vietnam "Nazi's", etc. etc. etc.) please come forward and do so; if not, please take your dramatics to another thread.