Food for thought..............
Food for thought..............
If by 'bretheren' you mean new-age guru's.
I've made no mention of 'new age gurus'. We are all children of God. When you judge another as a liar, that judgment stands before God and you will be judged by the same standard. An 'accuser' of the brethren is any entity or personality that is engaged in 'accusations' which do not serve to edify, inspire or elevate, but to demean and belittle. Love does not act in such a way.
What you reject is everything I am in Christ.
This is sadly a delusional assumption, loaded with so much preconceived contrived theological presumptions. I think perhaps there is too much being personally invested into a 'religious ego' construct, which now you assume you need to protect, or is under some kind of attack. Truth itself needs no defense, being what it is. There is no need to defend or attack if you are rooted in the bedrock of divine reality, the I AM Presence
itself. All sentient beings, human souls have this 'presence of God' (thought-adjuster) within them,....do you honor that presence? Spirit is both omnipresenct and universal. 'God' is 'Our Father'. 'God' is One. We all belong to 'God'. There is no outside of 'God'. God is in all, and God is all. Both immanent and transcendent.
You reject Christ and are ever stuck in the flesh because of it. Stuck.
I've been on this forum since 2003, and have NEVER rejected Christ. Again you are projecting your religous presumptions and prefigured conclusions.
Just because I have a more liberal eclectic view of Jesus that does not necessarily agree in every particular with your 'view' or 'concept' of Jesus, does NOT mean I reject Christ.
The UB also does not reject 'Christ'...but proclaims his as the Creator-Son of this system of worlds, this local universe,...so in this sense Jesus is our Lord, Savior and even 'God' (as our Creator-Son)...even though he is still subordinate to the Universal Father, the Father of all things and beings. To understand this, you've have to know some essential theology of the UB, its divine hierarchal order, cosmology, even Christology.
Accusation? Facts are facts. PJ. I didn't accuse you of anything you don't READILY admit. Don't be a liar. Accusation? :nono: Telling you to make actual sense with truthful statements.
If you call a person a
liar (out of the blue), dont expect not to be taken to task over proving your charge, or just dont engage in calling another a 'liar' in the first place. What 'judgment' you mete out to others, you will be judged by the same meter, the same standard,...this is why Jesus says 'judge not, lest ye be judged'. You might do well to heed the Sermon on the Mount, if Jesus words hold some value for you.
You mean your 'version' of it.
Reality is what actually IS....as far as what is 'absolute'. - only our perspectives and viewpoints conditioned by so many factors are 'relative'. Even our points of view on 'truth' or 'God' are relative, unless the absolute itself is contemplating itself, and no other, which would be the pure essence of 'God-consciousness'
itself. - that alone is the fundamental reality-base, from which all existence and consciousness has its source, Deity itself. - our finite perspectives are conditioned by space, time, background, culture, tradition, upbringing, society, media, personal preference, philosophical proclivities, dispositions, etc. REALITY includes all points of view within its total context....since the universal reality of ALL, includes all.....as ALL.
You fantasizers believe in half-truths and lies.
Your opinion is noted.
That is why it is worse: You believe your lies.
You've yet to provide evidence for any lies or belief in them.
This thread is about the UB and its associated theology, how it pertains to all other schools of science, philosophy, religion, and most importantly personal religious experience (which is the utlimate focus of the papers). With such a breadth of high ideals and concepts, the caliber of discussion can be taken to much higher realms than this petty name-calling or continual berating of the text. One would think a disciple of the Christ would be above such.
It isn't an accusation, it is simply what is true.
Your opinion is noted.
ALL of us Christians believe this about you.
False. I've had many wonderful friends here over the years, some being 'christians' of various sorts and those under other affiliations. You'd have to interview all who have ever corresponded or related to me on this forum over the years, to have a full knowledge and appreciation of such. But this thread isn't about me or your opinion of me. Its about the UB. (newsflash).
You have to believe the Bible to be called a Christian.
Well, thats usually one of the essential requirements
I do agree with much of this discourse on the scriptures - a discussion shared by the Master and Nathaniel
here. - like any other religious book,....the Bible and other books may be inspired more or less, as well as such writings having human imperfections, ideas, beliefs, literary devices, fictions and mythology within them as well. It is up to any student of truth or religion to study any scriptures of any tradition for themselves, and let their own conscience, logic, reason and divine inspiration guide them to what is true or false. Ultimately one's own religious experience as well, verifies what is authentic, having any meaning or value. One's own personal religious experience, their own testimony of truth, is what avails for anything. That is all you have, your own experience. Nothing exists outside of your own experience.
