The Late Great Urantia Revelation

[freelight]

Thought Adjusters..........

Thought Adjusters..........

And that takes place within, the outward adventures are symbols of that metaphorical. Journey. The Dream state of Divine amnesia.

- if the mind is quiet enough to hear the still small voice of the divine spirit...that voice is the essence of what is true before it can be conceptualized that spirit-fragment of the Infinite Father (the thought-adjuster) indwelling the mind is pre-personal,....it is the 'esse' of Deity itself, which at some future point in time may fuse with the soul of the ascending mortal, and become with that soul, an immortalized personality. The papers go into great detail over this in the TA papers here (papers 107 - 112) - the Adjuster's relation to the soul.

 

[Caino]

PRESENT STATUS OF THE REBELLION


53:9.1 Early in the days of the Lucifer rebellion, salvation was offered all rebels by Michael. To all who would show proof of sincere repentance, he offered, upon his attainment of complete universe sovereignty, forgiveness and reinstatement in some form of universe service. None of the leaders accepted this merciful proffer. But thousands of the angels and the lower orders of celestial beings, including hundreds of the Material Sons and Daughters, accepted the mercy proclaimed by the Panoptians and were given rehabilitation at the time of Jesus' resurrection nineteen hundred years ago. These beings have since been transferred to the Father's world of Jerusem, where they must be held, technically, until the Uversa courts hand down a decision in the matter of Gabriel vs. Lucifer. But no one doubts that, when the annihilation verdict is issued, these repentant and salvaged personalities will be exempted from the decree of extinction. These probationary souls now labor with the Panoptians in the work of caring for the Father's world.

53:9.2 The archdeceiver has never been on Urantia since the days when he sought to turn back Michael from the purpose to complete the bestowal and to establish himself finally and securely as the unqualified ruler of Nebadon. Upon Michael's becoming the settled head of the universe of Nebadon, Lucifer was taken into custody by the agents of the Uversa Ancients of Days and has since been a prisoner on satellite number one of the Father's group of the transition spheres of Jerusem. And here the rulers of other worlds and systems behold the end of the unfaithful Sovereign of Satania. Paul knew of the status of these rebellious leaders following Michael's bestowal, for he wrote of Caligastia's chiefs as “spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”

53:9.3 Michael, upon assuming the supreme sovereignty of Nebadon, petitioned the Ancients of Days for authority to intern all personalities concerned in the Lucifer rebellion pending the rulings of the superuniverse tribunals in the case of Gabrielvs. Lucifer, placed on the records of the Uversa supreme court almost two hundred thousand years ago, as you reckon time. Concerning the system capital group, the Ancients of Days granted the Michael petition with but a single exception: Satan was allowed to make periodic visits to the apostate princes on the fallen worlds until another Son of God should be accepted by such apostate worlds, or until such time as the courts of Uversa should begin the adjudication of the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer.

53:9.4Satan could come to Urantia because you had no Son of standing in residence—neither Planetary Prince nor Material Son. Machiventa Melchizedek has since been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia, and the opening of the case of Gabrielvs. Lucifer has signalized the inauguration of temporary planetary regimes on all the isolated worlds. It is true that Satan did periodically visit Caligastia and others of the fallen princes right up to the time of the presentation of these revelations. when there occurred the first hearing of Gabriel's plea for the annihilation of the archrebels. Satan is now unqualifiedly detained on the Jerusem prison worlds.

53:9.5 Since Michael's final bestowal no one in all Satania has desired to go to the prison worlds to minister to the interned rebels. And no more beings have been won to the deceiver's cause. For nineteen hundred years the status has been unchanged.

53:9.6 We do not look for a removal of the present Satania restrictions until the Ancients of Days make final disposition of the archrebels. The system circuits will not be reinstated so long as Lucifer lives. Meantime, he is wholly inactive.

53:9.7 The rebellion has ended on Jerusem. It ends on the fallen worlds as fast as divine Sons arrive. We believe that all rebels who will ever accept mercy have done so. We await the flashing broadcast that will deprive these traitors of personality existence. We anticipate the verdict of Uversa will be announced by the executionary broadcast which will effect the annihilation of these interned rebels. Then will you look for their places, but they shall not be found. “And they who know you among the worlds will be astonished at you; you have been a terror, but never shall you be any more.” And thus shall all of these unworthy traitors “become as though they had not been.” All await the Uversa decree.

53:9.8 But for ages the seven prison worlds of spiritual darkness in Satania have constituted a solemn warning to all Nebadon, eloquently and effectively proclaiming the great truth “that the way of the transgressor is hard”; “that within every sin is concealed the seed of its own destruction”; that “the wages of sin is death.”
53:9.9 [Presented by Manovandet Melchizedek, onetime attached to the receivership of Urantia.]

 

[freelight]

Trinity concept...

Trinity concept...

.......

Hi all,

Here is a recent commentary on the Trinity made into a blog post here

Its kind of a 'spin' on the Trinity, meant to stimulate ones own exploration of the concept.

Of course the UB's revelation of the 'Paradise Trinity' is exponential compared to the traditional-orthodox view in creedal Christianity. A basic understanding of hierarchy is essential here.

The Paradise Trinity

 

[freelight]

Exposing the devil........

Exposing the devil........

Spoiler

PRESENT STATUS OF THE REBELLION


53:9.1 Early in the days of the Lucifer rebellion, salvation was offered all rebels by Michael. To all who would show proof of sincere repentance, he offered, upon his attainment of complete universe sovereignty, forgiveness and reinstatement in some form of universe service. None of the leaders accepted this merciful proffer. But thousands of the angels and the lower orders of celestial beings, including hundreds of the Material Sons and Daughters, accepted the mercy proclaimed by the Panoptians and were given rehabilitation at the time of Jesus' resurrection nineteen hundred years ago. These beings have since been transferred to the Father's world of Jerusem, where they must be held, technically, until the Uversa courts hand down a decision in the matter of Gabriel vs. Lucifer. But no one doubts that, when the annihilation verdict is issued, these repentant and salvaged personalities will be exempted from the decree of extinction. These probationary souls now labor with the Panoptians in the work of caring for the Father's world.

53:9.2 The archdeceiver has never been on Urantia since the days when he sought to turn back Michael from the purpose to complete the bestowal and to establish himself finally and securely as the unqualified ruler of Nebadon. Upon Michael's becoming the settled head of the universe of Nebadon, Lucifer was taken into custody by the agents of the Uversa Ancients of Days and has since been a prisoner on satellite number one of the Father's group of the transition spheres of Jerusem. And here the rulers of other worlds and systems behold the end of the unfaithful Sovereign of Satania. Paul knew of the status of these rebellious leaders following Michael's bestowal, for he wrote of Caligastia's chiefs as “spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”

53:9.3 Michael, upon assuming the supreme sovereignty of Nebadon, petitioned the Ancients of Days for authority to intern all personalities concerned in the Lucifer rebellion pending the rulings of the superuniverse tribunals in the case of Gabrielvs. Lucifer, placed on the records of the Uversa supreme court almost two hundred thousand years ago, as you reckon time. Concerning the system capital group, the Ancients of Days granted the Michael petition with but a single exception: Satan was allowed to make periodic visits to the apostate princes on the fallen worlds until another Son of God should be accepted by such apostate worlds, or until such time as the courts of Uversa should begin the adjudication of the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer.

53:9.4Satan could come to Urantia because you had no Son of standing in residence—neither Planetary Prince nor Material Son. Machiventa Melchizedek has since been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia, and the opening of the case of Gabrielvs. Lucifer has signalized the inauguration of temporary planetary regimes on all the isolated worlds. It is true that Satan did periodically visit Caligastia and others of the fallen princes right up to the time of the presentation of these revelations. when there occurred the first hearing of Gabriel's plea for the annihilation of the archrebels. Satan is now unqualifiedly detained on the Jerusem prison worlds.

53:9.5 Since Michael's final bestowal no one in all Satania has desired to go to the prison worlds to minister to the interned rebels. And no more beings have been won to the deceiver's cause. For nineteen hundred years the status has been unchanged.

53:9.6 We do not look for a removal of the present Satania restrictions until the Ancients of Days make final disposition of the archrebels. The system circuits will not be reinstated so long as Lucifer lives. Meantime, he is wholly inactive.

53:9.7 The rebellion has ended on Jerusem. It ends on the fallen worlds as fast as divine Sons arrive. We believe that all rebels who will ever accept mercy have done so. We await the flashing broadcast that will deprive these traitors of personality existence. We anticipate the verdict of Uversa will be announced by the executionary broadcast which will effect the annihilation of these interned rebels. Then will you look for their places, but they shall not be found. “And they who know you among the worlds will be astonished at you; you have been a terror, but never shall you be any more.” And thus shall all of these unworthy traitors “become as though they had not been.” All await the Uversa decree.

53:9.8 But for ages the seven prison worlds of spiritual darkness in Satania have constituted a solemn warning to all Nebadon, eloquently and effectively proclaiming the great truth “that the way of the transgressor is hard”; “that within every sin is concealed the seed of its own destruction”; that “the wages of sin is death.”
53:9.9 [Presented by Manovandet Melchizedek, onetime attached to the receivership of Urantia.]

Caino,

If Lucifer, Satan and other of the arch rebel leaders are detained, imprisoned or mostly rendered powerless....what beings are able to influence those set on doing evil and predisposed towards iniquity?

It appears our original planetary Prince Caligastia, who fell and became 'the devil' and Dalagastia and others are still free to roam and affect mankind althought their powers have been greatly diminished since Jesus assumed his rightful lordship at his transfiguration and ascension, and since his Spirit of truth was poured out on the day of Pentecost. Our thought-adjusters also assist in our divine protection and guidance, and no evil spirit can take over the free will of an individual unless one gives their consent. Still....since Jesus reclaimed his sovereign lordship of this universe and his various dispensations released....the victory is truly to the sons of God, who persevere and do his will.

The UB gives its own wonderful story of who the fallen angels are, and our path of eternal progress and ascension as mortals aspiring to become immortal.

The Devil - Caligastia

 

[Caino]

Spoiler

PRESENT STATUS OF THE REBELLION


53:9.1 Early in the days of the Lucifer rebellion, salvation was offered all rebels by Michael. To all who would show proof of sincere repentance, he offered, upon his attainment of complete universe sovereignty, forgiveness and reinstatement in some form of universe service. None of the leaders accepted this merciful proffer. But thousands of the angels and the lower orders of celestial beings, including hundreds of the Material Sons and Daughters, accepted the mercy proclaimed by the Panoptians and were given rehabilitation at the time of Jesus' resurrection nineteen hundred years ago. These beings have since been transferred to the Father's world of Jerusem, where they must be held, technically, until the Uversa courts hand down a decision in the matter of Gabriel vs. Lucifer. But no one doubts that, when the annihilation verdict is issued, these repentant and salvaged personalities will be exempted from the decree of extinction. These probationary souls now labor with the Panoptians in the work of caring for the Father's world.

53:9.2 The archdeceiver has never been on Urantia since the days when he sought to turn back Michael from the purpose to complete the bestowal and to establish himself finally and securely as the unqualified ruler of Nebadon. Upon Michael's becoming the settled head of the universe of Nebadon, Lucifer was taken into custody by the agents of the Uversa Ancients of Days and has since been a prisoner on satellite number one of the Father's group of the transition spheres of Jerusem. And here the rulers of other worlds and systems behold the end of the unfaithful Sovereign of Satania. Paul knew of the status of these rebellious leaders following Michael's bestowal, for he wrote of Caligastia's chiefs as “spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”

53:9.3 Michael, upon assuming the supreme sovereignty of Nebadon, petitioned the Ancients of Days for authority to intern all personalities concerned in the Lucifer rebellion pending the rulings of the superuniverse tribunals in the case of Gabrielvs. Lucifer, placed on the records of the Uversa supreme court almost two hundred thousand years ago, as you reckon time. Concerning the system capital group, the Ancients of Days granted the Michael petition with but a single exception: Satan was allowed to make periodic visits to the apostate princes on the fallen worlds until another Son of God should be accepted by such apostate worlds, or until such time as the courts of Uversa should begin the adjudication of the case of Gabriel vs. Lucifer.

53:9.4Satan could come to Urantia because you had no Son of standing in residence—neither Planetary Prince nor Material Son. Machiventa Melchizedek has since been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia, and the opening of the case of Gabrielvs. Lucifer has signalized the inauguration of temporary planetary regimes on all the isolated worlds. It is true that Satan did periodically visit Caligastia and others of the fallen princes right up to the time of the presentation of these revelations. when there occurred the first hearing of Gabriel's plea for the annihilation of the archrebels. Satan is now unqualifiedly detained on the Jerusem prison worlds.

53:9.5 Since Michael's final bestowal no one in all Satania has desired to go to the prison worlds to minister to the interned rebels. And no more beings have been won to the deceiver's cause. For nineteen hundred years the status has been unchanged.

53:9.6 We do not look for a removal of the present Satania restrictions until the Ancients of Days make final disposition of the archrebels. The system circuits will not be reinstated so long as Lucifer lives. Meantime, he is wholly inactive.

53:9.7 The rebellion has ended on Jerusem. It ends on the fallen worlds as fast as divine Sons arrive. We believe that all rebels who will ever accept mercy have done so. We await the flashing broadcast that will deprive these traitors of personality existence. We anticipate the verdict of Uversa will be announced by the executionary broadcast which will effect the annihilation of these interned rebels. Then will you look for their places, but they shall not be found. “And they who know you among the worlds will be astonished at you; you have been a terror, but never shall you be any more.” And thus shall all of these unworthy traitors “become as though they had not been.” All await the Uversa decree.

53:9.8 But for ages the seven prison worlds of spiritual darkness in Satania have constituted a solemn warning to all Nebadon, eloquently and effectively proclaiming the great truth “that the way of the transgressor is hard”; “that within every sin is concealed the seed of its own destruction”; that “the wages of sin is death.”
53:9.9 [Presented by Manovandet Melchizedek, onetime attached to the receivership of Urantia.]

Caino,

If Lucifer, Satan and other of the arch rebel leaders are detained, imprisoned or mostly rendered powerless....what beings are able to influence those set on doing evil and predisposed towards iniquity?

It appears our original planetary Prince Caligastia, who fell and became 'the devil' and Dalagastia and others are still free to roam and affect mankind althought their powers have been greatly diminished since Jesus assumed his rightful lordship at his transfiguration and ascension, and since his Spirit of truth was poured out on the day of Pentecost. Our thought-adjusters also assist in our divine protection and guidance, and no evil spirit can take over the free will of an individual unless one gives their consent. Still....since Jesus reclaimed his sovereign lordship of this universe and his various dispensations released....the victory is truly to the sons of God, who persevere and do his will.

The UB gives its own wonderful story of who the fallen angels are, and our path of eternal progress and ascension as mortals aspiring to become immortal.

The Devil - Caligastia

Hi Freelight,


While Lucifer and Satan as well as their followers were all taken away, only Prince Caligastia remained on the planet although he was neutered of any real power by the "spirit of truth". One has to desire his presence such as Satan worshipers etc. That is IF he is even still here.

 

[Caino]

"The magical and mythological parentage of natural religion does not invalidate the reality and truth of the later revelational religions and the consummate saving gospel of the religion of Jesus. Jesus' life and teachings finally divested religion of the superstitions of magic, the illusions of mythology, and the bondage of traditional dogmatism. But this early magic and mythology very effectively prepared the way for later and superior religion by assuming the existence and reality of supermaterial values and beings." UB 1955

 

[God's Truth]

THE CERTITUDE OF THE DIVINE


102:7.1 The Universal Father, being self-existent, is also self-explanatory; he actually lives in every rational mortal. But you cannot be sure about God unless you know him; sonship is the only experience which makes fatherhood certain. The universe is everywhere undergoing change. A changing universe is a dependent universe; such a creation cannot be either final or absolute. A finite universe is wholly dependent on the Ultimate and the Absolute. The universe and God are not identical; one is cause, the other effect. The cause is absolute, infinite, eternal, and changeless; the effect, time-space and transcendental but ever changing, always growing.

102:7.2 God is the one and only self-caused fact in the universe. He is the secret of the order, plan, and purpose of the whole creation of things and beings. The everywhere-changing universe is regulated and stabilized by absolutely unchanging laws, the habits of an unchanging God. The fact of God, the divine law, is changeless; the truth of God, his relation to the universe, is a relative revelation which is ever adaptable to the constantly evolving universe.

102:7.3 Those who would invent a religion without God are like those who would gather fruit without trees, have children without parents. You cannot have effects without causes; only the I AM is causeless. The fact of religious experience implies God, and such a God of personal experience must be a personal Deity. You cannot pray to a chemical formula, supplicate a mathematical equation, worship a hypothesis, confide in a postulate, commune with a process, serve an abstraction, or hold loving fellowship with a law.
102:7.4 True, many apparently religious traits can grow out of nonreligious roots. Man can, intellectually, deny God and yet be morally good, loyal, filial, honest, and even idealistic. Man may graft many purely humanistic branches onto his basic spiritual nature and thus apparently prove his contentions in behalf of a godless religion, but such an experience is devoid of survival values, God-knowingness and God- ascension. In such a mortal experience only social fruits are forthcoming, not spiritual. The graft determines the nature of the fruit, notwithstanding that the living sustenance is drawn from the roots of original divine endowment of both mind and spirit.

102:7.5 The intellectual earmark of religion is certainty; the philosophical characteristic is consistency; the social fruits are love and service.

102:7.6 The God-knowing individual is not one who is blind to the difficulties or unmindful of the obstacles which stand in the way of finding God in the maze of superstition, tradition, and materialistic tendencies of modern times. He has encountered all these deterrents and triumphed over them, surmounted them by living faith, and attained the highlands of spiritual experience in spite of them. But it is true that many who are inwardly sure about God fear to assert such feelings of certainty because of the multiplicity and cleverness of those who assemble objections and magnify difficulties about believing in God. It requires no great depth of intellect to pick flaws, ask questions, or raise objections. But it does require brilliance of mind to answer these questions and solve these difficulties; faith certainty is the greatest technique for dealing with all such superficial contentions.

102:7.7 If science, philosophy, or sociology dares to become dogmatic in contending with the prophets of true religion, then should God-knowing men reply to such unwarranted dogmatism with that more farseeing dogmatism of the certainty of personal spiritual experience, “I know what I have experienced because I am a son of I AM.” If the personal experience of a faither is to be challenged by dogma, then this faith-born son of the experiencible Father may reply with that unchallengeable dogma, the statement of his actual sonship with the Universal Father.

102:7.8 Only an unqualified reality, an absolute, could dare consistently to be dogmatic. Those who assume to be dogmatic must, if consistent, sooner or later be driven into the arms of the Absolute of energy, the Universal of truth, and the Infinite of love.

102:7.9 If the nonreligious approaches to cosmic reality presume to challenge the certainty of faith on the grounds of its unproved status, then the spirit experiencer can likewise resort to the dogmatic challenge of the facts of science and the beliefs of philosophy on the grounds that they are likewise unproved; they are likewise experiences in the consciousness of the scientist or the philosopher.

102:7.10 Of God, the most inescapable of all presences, the most real of all facts, the most living of all truths, the most loving of all friends, and the most divine of all values, we have the right to be the most certain of all universe experiences." UB 1955

No one needs another gospel.

 

[Caino]

No one needs another gospel.

The world needs the original gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven that Jesus lived and taught

For now the remixed Gospel in the religion about Jesus is dying.

 

[God's Truth]

The world needs the original gospel of The Kingdom of Heaven that Jesus lived and taught

For now the remixed Gospel in the religion about Jesus is dying.

Just because men have not understood what is written and give many false doctrines does not mean it is the fault of the Holy Bible.

 

[Caino]

Just because men have not understood what is written and give many false doctrines does not mean it is the fault of the Holy Bible.

It's not Gods fault that men wrote the Bible and then said God wrote it so it cant be fixed.

 

[God's Truth]

It's not Gods fault that men wrote the Bible and then said God wrote it so it cant be fixed.

God knows how to preserve His words and He did, and it is called the Holy Bible.

 

[Caino]

God knows how to preserve His words and He did, and it is called the Holy Bible.

The doctrine of inspiration is a false doctrine.

 

[God's Truth]

The doctrine of inspiration is a false doctrine.

The doctrine of what?

 

[freelight]

Our Planetary Histrory......

Our Planetary Histrory......

Caino wrote:



Hi Freelight,


While Lucifer and Satan as well as their followers were all taken away, only Prince Caligastia remained on the planet although he was neutered of any real power by the "spirit of truth". One has to desire his presence such as Satan worshipers etc. That is IF he is even still here.

Yes, the UB presents a wonderful purview of the angelic rebellion situation. You know there are branch off groups and individuals who claim to be in contact with 'Caligastia', on the note that he is not so evil anymore and has repented somewhat, so he's giving some people more insights behind the planets history, in corrobation with the UB records. I found it interesting on one forum where an individual claims to have memory-downloads from Caligastia in some form or fashion, where some of the OT appearances of 'God' were actually Caligastia as he was still the Planetary Prince here! - this correlates with some within Christendom who subscribe to the idea that 'Lucifer' was the 'god' or 'ruler' of our planet, in ancient times even before Adam & Eve showed up. Interesting cross-over there, although Lucifer in the UB was never our planetary prince but a high Son of another order whom Caligastia later joined,...in any case Caligastia as former planetary prince of this planet, before our Creator Son Jesus came here has a special tie to the planet. He is often confused with Lucifer or Satan, and still these personalities are separate and distinct. It seems in planetary histories there are similar themes and mythologies, but sometimes names get mixed up or misapplied, but the characters and some of the events that happened correlate to the general records

In any event then, this brings us to other theories on how some Christians (Marcion, some Gnostic groups/mythologies, etc.) did not trust in the 'god' of the OT, as YHWH (Jehovah), and thought maybe this was an imposter god or a lower 'demiurge' like being, allowed to still operate here on the planet by the higher powers that be, until things got really bad and heaven sent in emergency Sons and finally our own Creator Son, Jesus to win the victory and adjudicate the Lucifer Rebellion restoring the realm, then outpouring his Spirit of truth on all. So, I don't know if such a concept is allowed for in UB cosmology, since it may be assumed that the Universal Father or some other celestial beings or high heaveanly Sons were guiding and inspiring the Jews thru-out their history (or what the pre-incarnate Jesus the one guiding the OT Jews or various beings?) I'd have to read up again on that. Maybe Caligastia did appear to some Jews as 'god', an 'angel of light', even as 'YHWH' (Ehyeh) in the burning bush, etc. and give some good laws and instruction but mixing it with some darkness (like in the blood sacrificial system, and various other laws, commands of genocide, etc.).

 

[Caino]

The doctrine of what?

The doctrine of the divine inspiration of scripture. Claiming God wrote what man wrote is a false doctrine.

 

[freelight]

Truth is truth wherever it is being shared......

Truth is truth wherever it is being shared......

No one needs another gospel.

Did you actually read that section entitled 'The Certitude of the Divine'? - Its a very wonderful dissertation on just that. It is not particularly assuming or claiming to be 'another gospel', but a discourse on the certainty of 'God'. Perhaps you can take the effort to actually read it, and see if anything resonates with you as being true, or share what parts of the commentary you disagree with as to engender some constructive dialogue?

The goodnews of the kingdom of heaven is proclaimed in Part 4, confirming and expanding upon the canonical gospel accounts,....the same good news by Jesus own words holds and is extended in a greater context. Therefore Part 4 of the UB is not necessarily a 'new gospel' but an expanded and clarified gospel-message on the fundamental truth of the Fatherhood of God and Brotherhood of Man, and man's part in that kingdom-consciousness in the earth, which reflects the law of the kingdom shown by love and service to others,...its a very sound, practical and altruistic message of man's responsibility to God and to his fellowman. In time man is given further dispensations of knowledge, expansions of truth, thru the natural progressive course of evolution, as well as divinely given inspiration or 'revelation' that is granted to assist him, as he is ready to receive such and incorporate it into his living.

This is what the UB is as the 5th Epochal Revelation to the planet (by a particular group of celestials) IS,....for any to consider. The truths, values, meanings, principles, shared in the tome speaks for itself in its proper terminology and context, for any interested in expanding his/her consciousness Godward, enhancing a greater universal trust and cosmic comprehension of the meaning and purpose of life. This is all the UB is about, for those who actually have read its message and contemplate its deeper meaning.

 

[God's Truth]

The doctrine of the divine inspiration of scripture. Claiming God wrote what man wrote is a false doctrine.

All scripture is God breathed.

 

[God's Truth]

Did you actually read that section entitled 'The Certitude of the Divine'? - Its a very wonderful dissertation on just that. It is not particularly assuming or claiming to be 'another gospel', but a discourse on the certainty of 'God'. Perhaps you can take the effort to actually read it, and see if anything resonates with you as being true, or share what parts of the commentary you disagree with as to engender some constructive dialogue?

The goodnews of the kingdom of heaven is proclaimed in Part 4, confirming and expanding upon the canonical gospel accounts,....the same good news by Jesus own words holds and is extended in a greater context. Therefore Part 4 of the UB is not necessarily a 'new gospel' but an expanded and clarified gospel-message on the fundamental truth of the Fatherhood of God and Brotherhood of Man, and man's part in that kingdom-consciousness in the earth, which reflects the law of the kingdom shown by love and service to others,...its a very sound, practical and altruistic message of man's responsibility to God and to his fellowman. In time man is given further dispensations of knowledge, expansions of truth, thru the natural progressive course of evolution, as well as divinely given inspiration or 'revelation' that is granted to assist him, as he is ready to receive such and incorporate it into his living.

This is what the UB is as the 5th Epochal Revelation to the planet (by a particular group of celestials) IS,....for any to consider. The truths, values, meanings, principles, shared in the tome speaks for itself in its proper terminology and context, for any interested in expanding his/her consciousness Godward, enhancing a greater universal trust and cosmic comprehension of the meaning and purpose of life. This is all the UB is about, for those who actually have read its message and contemplate its deeper meaning.

Thank you for wanting me to read and discuss what interests you. I am not trying to be offensive, but I must tell you that I will never ever accept writing about God from another source, other than the Holy Bible, even if what you want me to read includes things perfectly in sync with what we have in the Bible.

You speak a lot of truth, and I like a lot of what you say and how you say it, but my God is a jealous God, and there also are thieves that don't go through the gate and I will not even venture into what they say.

If you would only go by the Holy Bible, I think you would have a deeper understanding about God and a closer relationship than you have ever imagined.

My mom was into the writings you speak about. She used to talk at length to me about the things she learned. I asked her if she really believed everything that she was telling me, and she said yes, and I asked her why she didn't just believe in the Bible then.

Thanks again though.

 

[freelight]

The Bible is not being blamed for anything. Discover truth wherever it may be found..

The Bible is not being blamed for anything. Discover truth wherever it may be found..

Just because men have not understood what is written and give many false doctrines does not mean it is the fault of the Holy Bible.

We would note that any claim that the bible is wholly inerrant, infallible or perfect is one whose burden of proof is upon the claimant. As I've share elsewhere, I don't see any need or necessity for believing such a concept. Any thorough study of the Bible concerning any contradictions or imperfections only goes to prove that mistakes will naturally be found within any document or records WRITTEN BY MEN, and may further undergo scribal adaptations, ommissions or redactions in time, even if only in some instances, this is natural for any inspiration coming thru finite beings or imperfect men may condition, limit or modify the pure stream of revelation being given, while again....creative license to rework the text by scribes can creep into the transmissions. Is recognizing this some form of imposed blasphemy against the Bible itself or 'God'? HARDLY...its just recognizing that mistakes, contradictions, manipulations, creative license can happen with the transmission and translation process, all coming thru mortal men with their own weaknesses, imperfections and in some cases ulterior motives.

Even the UB does not claim inerrancy, infallibility or perfection, since it admittedly uses human concepts and knowledge sources of that era (early 20th century) and expands upon those only to the degree of enhancing appropriate for the reception of the race at that time, augmenting the collective consciousness, yet also adding some new terms and concepts newly revealed or contextualized. There are parts that seem coloured or influenced by some beliefs of some of the human agents involved in giving the papers to the world (open to debate),...but one is to read thru all things and get to the eternal truths, universal principles and true religious values being shared, and them put them into practice, and see for himself if the teaching is true. Therefore with all readings, all religious writings, scriptures, revelations...you likewise use your own spiritual discernment, asking for divine wisdom/guidance in all things. It has been the way since time immemorial in-as-much as one can pray to the Universal Father in heaven, as well as contact that still small voice within the soul, the indwelling thought-adjuster,...it is all 'God' communicating to the receptive soul, some truth, ideal, principle or value.

 

[God's Truth]

We would note that any claim that the bible is wholly inerrant, infallible or perfect is one whose burden of proof is upon the claimant. As I've share elsewhere, I don't see any need or necessity for believing such a concept. Any thorough study of the Bible concerning any contradictions or imperfections only goes to prove that mistakes will naturally be found within any document or records WRITTEN BY MEN, and may further undergo scribal adaptations, ommissions or redactions in time, even if only in some instances, this is natural for any inspiration coming thru finite beings or imperfect men may condition, limit or modify the pure stream of revelation being given, while again....creative license to rework the text by scribes can creep into the transmissions. Is recognizing this some form of imposed blasphemy against the Bible itself or 'God'? HARDLY...its just recognizing that mistakes, contradictions, manipulations, creative license can happen with the transmission and translation process, all coming thru mortal men with their own weaknesses, imperfections and in some cases ulterior motives.

Even the UB does not claim inerrancy, infallibility or perfection, since it admittedly uses human concepts and knowledge sources of that era (early 20th century) and expands upon those only to the degree of enhancing appropriate for the reception of the race at that time, augmenting the collective consciousness, yet also adding some new terms and concepts newly revealed or contextualized. There are parts that seem coloured or influenced by some beliefs of some of the human agents involved in giving the papers to the world (open to debate),...but one is to read thru all things and get to the eternal truths, universal principles and true religious values being shared, and them put them into practice, and see for himself if the teaching is true. Therefore with all readings, all religious writings, scriptures, revelations...you likewise use your own spiritual discernment, asking for divine wisdom/guidance in all things. It has been the way since time immemorial in-as-much as one can pray to the Universal Father in heaven, as well as contact that still small voice within the soul, the indwelling thought-adjuster,...it is all 'God' communicating to the receptive soul, some truth, ideal, principle or value.

I do understand exactly what you are saying. As for the Bible, I have not found anything that is of error, at least not error to where it would give a false doctrine. The Holy Bible makes a statement from Jesus and it is that if one does what he says, he will reveal himself to the one who obeys. I have had this revelation, and would not go outside the writings of the men and women whom through God said that.