Zeke
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Hi Caino,
If I may add,....I touched on this in post #2877, sharing 2 older threads on the Jesus-myth issue and reiterating that the UB does not hold a mythicist view about Jesus, but builds upon the reality of Jesus as attested by the biblical record (NT), so it would be difficult for a die-hard believer in the UB to accept that Jesus is a fictional/mythological figure or he would have to take Part 4 of the papers as 'religious fiction', but this might compromise the integrity of the revelators. - so it may be a 'shaky' area for some. I suspect it might for you as you consider the possibilities. The whole UB would be 'questionable' actually since the 'theology' is based on an underlying biblical foundation, even with its imperfections.
If Jesus is a mythological figure (maybe built up upon an actual man named Jesus that lived, but his story embellished, or the character of Jesus being built from other historical figures of that period like Apollonius of Tyana) this puts the Christian fundies here in a predicament, since even if only scraps of evidence exist for said person (the 'evidence' debatable)...it still comes back to faith. It would be 'faith' as well for a UB enthusiast in 'trusting' the record.
It would make Aimiel's belief in Jesus just as 'valid' as his caricature of 'Jebus', since both are religious fictional characters. - the 'charade' would be likened to a 'game of mirrors'.
In any case,....if Jesus is historical or not,....his teachings are still open to testing, if they have true ethical value, moral truth and real meaning for us. On this level, it might not matter if the 'messenger' was 'historical' or not, since the message of the 'personality' is of primary importance (although some would still debate this, and feel 'proof' of the messenger as an actual historical entity is integral to the dispensation of the message or revelation).
pj
Goods points, the teaching wasn't new as you well know, many of the passages and quotes could be found among other religious teachings through history, etc......................Blessings, Zeke.