ECT The Grace of God. Is it merited or unmerited?

[Totton Linnet]

First correct/overcome that which you are bound to before accusing others of their 'lack'.

Don't be sneaky, the WHOLE purpose of your work is to chide everybody for what they [in your opinion ] lack

You do not ever say you have yourself attained to this standard of holiness...you imply it inasmuch as you flog everyone on to attain it.

I say this sanctification is FREE and is ours...whether we live it or not.

My message to EVERYONE is simply BE what God has made you to be, Christ DWELLS in you, simply allow Him to manifest Himself....that is simple and easy to understand.

 

[Totton Linnet]

You don't like it, there is no room for boasting

 

[Cross Reference]

Don't be sneaky, the WHOLE purpose of your work is to chide everybody for what they [in your opinion ] lack

You do not ever say you have yourself attained to this standard of holiness...you imply it inasmuch as you flog everyone on to attain it.

I say this sanctification is FREE and is ours...whether we live it or not.

My message to EVERYONE is simply BE what God has made you to be, Christ DWELLS in you, simply allow Him to manifest Himself....that is simple and easy to understand.

"YOUR MESSAGE"???!! What makes you so certain you are correct and everyone else wrong . . that you BOAST of it?

 

[Totton Linnet]

That which I RECIEVED gave I unto you....if it is by gift why do you boast as though you had not received it?

The plain fact is nothing you got, nothing you can ever do could buy or earn you the least of God's blessings

 

[JonahofAkron]

Hebrews 5:8
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

So He wasn't obedient before that?

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[Totton Linnet]

You are like Naaman with his horses and chariots, if the prophet said do some great thing, you would do it...but when he says simply wash and be clean you turn away in a rage.

 

[musterion]

I think a lot of people from many schools of thought are repulsed by the idea that fallen man has within himself the ability to behave in certain situations in a ways that please God.

And yet, from cover to cover the Bible shows that He condemns fallen people specifically for disobeying and displeasing Him.

 

[Totton Linnet]

"YOUR MESSAGE"???!! What makes you so certain you are correct and everyone else wrong . . that you BOAST of it?

We do agree on the end principal that God wants us to die to self and live unto Him a life well pleasing.

 

[God's Truth]

That which I RECIEVED gave I unto you....if it is by gift why do you boast as though you had not received it?

The plain fact is nothing you got, nothing you can ever do could buy or earn you the least of God's blessings

We do not have to do the purification works---WE STILL HAVE TO TO OBEY. Those who obey are the ones who receive the Holy Spirit. See Acts 5:32, and John 14:23.

 

[God's Truth]

We do agree on the end principal that God wants us to die to self and live unto Him a life well pleasing.

You CANNOT die to self UNLESS YOU OBEY.

 

[JonahofAkron]

We do agree on the end principal that God wants us to die to self and live unto Him a life well pleasing.

And what does that look like? Do you try to follow Messiah in His action ad word?

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[Cross Reference]

So He wasn't obedient before that?

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Do not sons need to learn simply because they are sons? Did not Jesus have to deal with the law of the flesh as everyone else? Did he not suffer as well as everyone else when dealing with it? Did He not get hungry, thirsty, sleepy, etal? How 'bout taking matters into hHis own hands? Wanna go there?

 

[God's Truth]

"YOUR MESSAGE"???!! What makes you so certain you are correct and everyone else wrong . . that you BOAST of it?

They are boasting that they did NOTHING. They are boasting in their own faith, in other words that they talked themselves into believing they are saved for doing nothing.

 

[God's Truth]

That sly devil ensnaring people to believe we do wrong when we obey!

 

[JonahofAkron]

Do not sons need to learn simply because they are sons? Did not Jesus have to deal with the law of the flesh as everyone else? Did he not suffer as well as everyone else when dealing with it? Did He not get hungry, thirsty, sleepy, etal? How 'bout taking matters into hHis own hands? Wanna go there?

Simple question, was He obedient before suffering?

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[God's Truth]

Do not sons need to learn simply because they are sons? Did not Jesus have to deal with the law of the flesh as everyone else? Did he not suffer as well as everyone else when dealing with it? Did He not get hungry, thirsty, sleepy, etal? How 'bout taking matters into hHis own hands? Wanna go there?

Jesus ALWAYS OBEYED and then suffered unto death.

 

[Cross Reference]

We do agree on the end principal that God wants us to die to self and live unto Him a life well pleasing.

Unto what "well pleasing" except in pursuing Him to know Him by which the overly used vague term, "dying to self" will become a non-issue.

 

[Totton Linnet]

And what does that look like? Do you try to follow Messiah in His action ad word?

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Follow, follow, what do you mean He LIVES in me, I spect Him to manifest THROUGH me, I fail in that sometimes, ok so all you can do is do it better next time, I don't beat myself up.

I know how the flesh works, how the mind of the flesh thinks....but God works differently, He thinks differently. THAT'S what we have to learn.

 

[Cross Reference]

And yet, from cover to cover the Bible shows that He condemns fallen people specifically for disobeying and displeasing Him.

And He chastens those He loves. [Imagine that: God loving fallen people]

 

[Totton Linnet]

Unto what "well pleasing" except in pursuing Him to know Him by which the overly used vague term, "dying to self" will become a non-issue.

We know when we are well pleasing to God