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I never said anything about men performing miracles.
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I've seen your points a million times. It's what most of Churchanity preaches.
You should read posts 340, 342, 343 & 344 of this thread.
turbosixx
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Yes, why would they not?
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Because there is ONE baptism for the body of Christ and THAT baptism is BY the Spirit INTO the body.
Why should it be a water baptism?
turbosixx
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I totally agree. The reason I ask for scripture is that most of the time it's taken out of context, isn't in harmony with other passages or is just plain misunderstood. We are told to test to see if it's from God. We know the mind of God because it has been given to us. I want to know the truth and I don't believe it's that hard to understand. I believe God has given us exactly what we need for Him to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Again I agree with you.
TOL already knows that. Do not confuse your lack of reading comprehension skills, lack of spiritual discernment, with doubt on your part, of my greatness and humility. And no scripture commands me to answer any/all questions, especially from those, such as yourself, that engage in deceptive, hypocritical tactics, tactics, sophistry, "Three Card Monty,"and who don't "believe Jesus."
turbosixx
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Here is my understanding.
In the same conversation Jesus has with the apostles in Mark 16, in Matthews version Jesus tells them to make Christians by baptizing them in the name of.
Matt. 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
"In the name of" is water baptism. Here is my scriptural support for that idea.
Here we can clearly see being baptized "in the name of" Jesus is water baptism.
Acts 10:47 “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
So we see the baptism in Mk 16 is water baptism "in the name of" Jesus.
If you don't agree, I would love to consider your scriptural support to the contrary.
turbosixx
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Didn't think so.
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Eph 4:3-6 KJV Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. (4) There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; (5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (6) One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1Co 12:12-14 KJV For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. (13) For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (14) For the body is not one member, but many.
Just as plain as the nose on your face.
Reduced the troll to surfing the net, to surf for "shut down" "original" cliches. That's it, troll/trollette? We never heard that one before. Weighty. Please teach us...Please?Please?
Chapter, verse, that commands me to answer any/all questions, especially from those, such as yourself, that engage in deceptive, hypocritical tactics, tactics, sophistry, "Three Card Monty,"and who don't "believe Jesus?
As quiet as a turkey farm, on Thanksgiving day.
turbosixx
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I agree with those verses. You didn't answer my question.
What did Paul mean by Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
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fyi, the Catholic Church has been in the business of verifying miracles for centuries. She does so in order to definitively confirm that certain people who have died are now in fact in heaven. These are the ones called 'Saints.' It isn't that only the 'Saints' are in heaven, it's that the 'Saints' are the ones that are 'verified' to be in heaven.
And I don't think that the Catholic Church would agree that this is an example of a miracle. But I could be wrong, not being well-versed in these procedures. I do know that most of the confirmed miracles are medical miracles/healings.
I also don't disagree with you that it is a miracle. I think that it sometimes takes looking very carefully at an event, from within a particular vantage point, and with faith, in order to see miracles occurring. But as an outsider to this, I would, regardless of it being an objective miracle, whatever that may be, see this very plainly as an example of God's sovereignty.
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You have a one track mind... Churchianity.
Is there ONE baptism or not?
What is THAT one baptism?
Idolater
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Right, right up until they killed Him.
What happened after they killed Him is a new context.
What happened after they killed Him has universal application.
Acts 5:42 KJV
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And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.
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Translated: They went to the temple, "post Pentecost," straight from the law,observed
"the hour of prayer," at 3 P. M, per Acts 3:1 KJV, right out of the law, per Daniel 6:10(To be done 3 times a day)T KJV, Psalms 5:7 KJV, Psalms 28:2 KJV, Psalms 68:31 KJV, but never taught other to do the same.
You lied. Why? What is your motivation?
Mattehew 28 KJV, "post resurrection:"
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
"Boot Camp, for forty days, "post resurrection:"
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Acts 1:3 KJV
to whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
Acts 2:46 KJV
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Acts 3:1-3 KJV, Acts 3:8 KJV, Acts 3:10 KJV
1 Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour.2 And a certain man lame from his mother’s womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple;3 who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms...........8 And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God....10 and they knew that it was he which sat for alms at the Beautiful gate of the temple: and they were filled with wonder and amazement at that which had happened unto him.
Acts 4:1 KJV
And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them,
Levitical priests, right out of the law, the temple...
Acts 5:20-21 KJV, Acts 5:24-25 KJV
20 Go, stand and speak in the temple to the people all the words of this life.21
And when they heard that, they entered into the temple early in the morning, and taught. But the high priest came, and they that were with him, and called the council together, and all the senate of the children of Israel, and sent to the prison to have them brought....24 Now when the high priest and the captain of the temple and the chief priests heard these things, they doubted of them whereunto this would grow.25 Then came one and told them, saying, Behold, the men whom ye put in prison are standing in the temple, and teaching the people.
What temple do you attend, and how do you explain that you are not teaching the law, to those that observe you keeping that same law?
Rosenritter
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1. I am not hearing you admit that "love one another" and "love thy enemy" are universally applicable to everyone.
2. What I am hearing are constant rephrasing and conditions that would say that these are only for those of the blood of Israel ... and not applicable to the Gentile.
Please confirm or deny.
turbosixx
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Why will you not explain what Paul is talking about? The passages you quoted DO NOT contain "in the name of". How can we understand what "in the name of" baptism is if you ignore passages that contain it?
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