The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?
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beloved57
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Well, I am sure you know, in the final analysis, it does not matter how good its explained, it will not be embraced unless its given us from Heaven !
Nanja
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beloved57
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He saves sinners out of sin and unbelief !
He saves sinners out of sin and unbelief !
1 Tim 1:15
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
But also remember that their are particular sinners That have Salvation in this Christ Jesus 2 Tim 2:10
10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
So He came to save Elect sinners from their sins, and from out of Unbelief !
See, the Elect[by nature] are lost and imprisoned in Unbelief Per 11:32
32 For God hath concluded them all[all the election of grace from the jew and Gentiles] in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Now this Christ must save them from if He is their Saviour from sin and its consequences, which is unbelief !
Now there are some if not many in false religion who teach erroneously and culpably that Christ Jesus does not save unbelievers, but that is the most preposterous thing an evil heart of unbelief can think of, for if that was True, no one could be saved from their sins, for as a consequence of sin, all men are imprisoned in unbelief, for it is part of being experimetally lost !
Now the Testimony of the Apostle Paul refutes this devilish lie without a doubt, in that Christ came and saved him out of unbelief.
Its recorded to be a pattern, Remember how he persecuted the Flock of God, and was a Blasphemer ? Paul testifies that he did it in unbelief 1 Tim 1:13
13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
That was the sin that so easily beset him ! Yet God showed him mercy Rom 11:32 in unbelief and he was converted in the height of his unbelief and rampage into a believer and a Apostle 1 Tim 1:13-14
13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
Notice how that by Grace Faith was given him to deliver him from unbelief, So his testimony in light of his conversion out of unbelief and hate for Christ Jesus is this 1 Tim 1:15
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners[out of unbelief and ignorance]; of whom I am chief.
16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
To obtain mercy means to be converted from unbelief that we may hereafter believe on Him to Life everlasting. Sinners here in Vs 15 is synonymous with unbelief in Vs 13, which proves that Christ saves unbelievers, else they would have never believed !
He saves sinners out of sin and unbelief !
1 Tim 1:15
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
But also remember that their are particular sinners That have Salvation in this Christ Jesus 2 Tim 2:10
10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
So He came to save Elect sinners from their sins, and from out of Unbelief !
See, the Elect[by nature] are lost and imprisoned in Unbelief Per 11:32
32 For God hath concluded them all[all the election of grace from the jew and Gentiles] in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Now this Christ must save them from if He is their Saviour from sin and its consequences, which is unbelief !
Now there are some if not many in false religion who teach erroneously and culpably that Christ Jesus does not save unbelievers, but that is the most preposterous thing an evil heart of unbelief can think of, for if that was True, no one could be saved from their sins, for as a consequence of sin, all men are imprisoned in unbelief, for it is part of being experimetally lost !
Now the Testimony of the Apostle Paul refutes this devilish lie without a doubt, in that Christ came and saved him out of unbelief.
Its recorded to be a pattern, Remember how he persecuted the Flock of God, and was a Blasphemer ? Paul testifies that he did it in unbelief 1 Tim 1:13
13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
That was the sin that so easily beset him ! Yet God showed him mercy Rom 11:32 in unbelief and he was converted in the height of his unbelief and rampage into a believer and a Apostle 1 Tim 1:13-14
13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
Notice how that by Grace Faith was given him to deliver him from unbelief, So his testimony in light of his conversion out of unbelief and hate for Christ Jesus is this 1 Tim 1:15
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners[out of unbelief and ignorance]; of whom I am chief.
16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
To obtain mercy means to be converted from unbelief that we may hereafter believe on Him to Life everlasting. Sinners here in Vs 15 is synonymous with unbelief in Vs 13, which proves that Christ saves unbelievers, else they would have never believed !
beloved57
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Were made Righteous !
Were made Righteous !
All for whom Christ died have been made Righteous, simply by His One Obedience apart from theirs ! Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
This being made Righteous by His One Obedience is merely the antithesis or opposite of having been made sinners by ones act of disobedience apart from theirs !
Now Christ's active obedience that issued in His Death, even the Death of the Cross was made up of His doing the Will of God, expressed here Ps 40:7-8
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
His will was to , in behalf of those Chosen in Him, Isa 42:21
21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
Which was what man in the first adam utterly failed to do ! So as a result we read Rom 5:19a
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
You see, in Christ's active obedience as the Last Adam on His way to the cross, He performed a absolutely perfect Obedience to God's Law to every commandment and righteous rule of conduct that the Law required of man, in outward conduct and in inward thoughts and every word spoken 1 Pet 2:22
Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Ps 34:13
Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile.
His Active Obedience also included all His works , and Miracles His Life from His cradle to the Cross, thats why it is also affirmed that He was Made under the Law Gal 4:4-5
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Now, all of His Active Obedience to God's Will and Law, His Perfect and Spotless Obedience to every precept of it in outward and inward conformity, in thought and tongue, as a Free Gift of Reckoning, it has been charged to the account of for whom He died and so we read Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
That word Righteous dikaios:
I.righteous, observing divine laws
A.
in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God
i.
of those who seem to themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves in their virtues, whether real or imagined
ii.
innocent, faultless, guiltless
iii.
used of him whose way of thinking, feeling, and acting is wholly conformed to the will of God, and who therefore needs no rectification in the heart or life
a.
only Christ truly
B.
in a narrower sense, rendering to each his due and that in a judicial sense, passing just judgment on others, whether expressed in words or shown by the manner of dealing with them
iv.
approved of or acceptable of God
Listen, as free Gift of Imputation, that Active Obedience of Christ, in His Pure and Spotless thinking, feeling and performing wholly in conforming to the Will of God as Per Ps 40:7-8;Heb 10:7
that Active Obedience is given to all for whom He died and represented as they given what was done being represented in Adam, So thats why Rom 5:19 is True, we are made Righteous with that Active Obedience of Christ that He rendered to God's Law and Commandments in our behalf, If He died for us !
Were made Righteous !
All for whom Christ died have been made Righteous, simply by His One Obedience apart from theirs ! Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
This being made Righteous by His One Obedience is merely the antithesis or opposite of having been made sinners by ones act of disobedience apart from theirs !
Now Christ's active obedience that issued in His Death, even the Death of the Cross was made up of His doing the Will of God, expressed here Ps 40:7-8
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
His will was to , in behalf of those Chosen in Him, Isa 42:21
21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
Which was what man in the first adam utterly failed to do ! So as a result we read Rom 5:19a
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
You see, in Christ's active obedience as the Last Adam on His way to the cross, He performed a absolutely perfect Obedience to God's Law to every commandment and righteous rule of conduct that the Law required of man, in outward conduct and in inward thoughts and every word spoken 1 Pet 2:22
Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Ps 34:13
Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile.
His Active Obedience also included all His works , and Miracles His Life from His cradle to the Cross, thats why it is also affirmed that He was Made under the Law Gal 4:4-5
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Now, all of His Active Obedience to God's Will and Law, His Perfect and Spotless Obedience to every precept of it in outward and inward conformity, in thought and tongue, as a Free Gift of Reckoning, it has been charged to the account of for whom He died and so we read Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
That word Righteous dikaios:
I.righteous, observing divine laws
A.
in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God
i.
of those who seem to themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves in their virtues, whether real or imagined
ii.
innocent, faultless, guiltless
iii.
used of him whose way of thinking, feeling, and acting is wholly conformed to the will of God, and who therefore needs no rectification in the heart or life
a.
only Christ truly
B.
in a narrower sense, rendering to each his due and that in a judicial sense, passing just judgment on others, whether expressed in words or shown by the manner of dealing with them
iv.
approved of or acceptable of God
Listen, as free Gift of Imputation, that Active Obedience of Christ, in His Pure and Spotless thinking, feeling and performing wholly in conforming to the Will of God as Per Ps 40:7-8;Heb 10:7
that Active Obedience is given to all for whom He died and represented as they given what was done being represented in Adam, So thats why Rom 5:19 is True, we are made Righteous with that Active Obedience of Christ that He rendered to God's Law and Commandments in our behalf, If He died for us !
Nanja
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Great post!
Those Christ died for, they come to understand this Truth experimentally,
by the indwelling of the Spirit of Christ they are given Gal. 4:4-6;
having the knowledge and assurance in their soul of their sanctification
by Christ's Death for them, and all that It accomplished on their behalf!
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
So when Jesus said in John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;
even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love", I believe that He was
actually making a declaration that those who abide in His love do keep them, because they have
His Righteousness charged to them Rom 5:19: They are blameless in His sight 1 Cor. 1:4-9 !
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beloved57
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nanja
Yes, and this is a Truth that begins to be revealed to us in the Gospel. Its Part of that Righteousness of God being revealed to Faith from Faith Rom 1:17
17 For therein [The Gospel] is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
The First Faith is the Gospel as it is called the Word of Faith Rom 10:8 and the second Faith is God given Faith from the New Birth, a Fruit of the Spirit !
Yes the same Principle applies when John wrote Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
As Long as we have God given Faith to realize that Christ kept the Commandments of God for us and in our behalf, we keep the Commandments of God, for we walk by Faith/Spirit and not by sight Rom 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Meaning we walk after what the Spirit revealed to us by the Gospel, that the Law is fulfilled in Us, not by Us, through Christ's active obedience given to us !
Yes, and this is a Truth that begins to be revealed to us in the Gospel. Its Part of that Righteousness of God being revealed to Faith from Faith Rom 1:17
17 For therein [The Gospel] is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
The First Faith is the Gospel as it is called the Word of Faith Rom 10:8 and the second Faith is God given Faith from the New Birth, a Fruit of the Spirit !
Yes the same Principle applies when John wrote Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
As Long as we have God given Faith to realize that Christ kept the Commandments of God for us and in our behalf, we keep the Commandments of God, for we walk by Faith/Spirit and not by sight Rom 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Meaning we walk after what the Spirit revealed to us by the Gospel, that the Law is fulfilled in Us, not by Us, through Christ's active obedience given to us !
Nanja
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beloved57;4073034]nanja
The Word of Faith can only take root in a New Heart, which is given in the New Birth.
And so it becomes the Gospel of their Salvation Eph. 1:13, when they are made to realize,
through the Spirit, that the Righteousness of God has been applied / imputed to them personally
through the Obedience of Christ on their behalf Rom. 5:19 KJV .
Amen!
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The Word of Faith can only take root in a New Heart, which is given in the New Birth.
And so it becomes the Gospel of their Salvation Eph. 1:13, when they are made to realize,
through the Spirit, that the Righteousness of God has been applied / imputed to them personally
through the Obedience of Christ on their behalf Rom. 5:19 KJV .
Amen!
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beloved57
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Yes those who do embrace the Gospel, the word of Faith had already the word / seed implanted in them by the Spirit and Newbirth, Paul said that the word was in your heart here Rom 10:8 !
Nanja
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Yes those who do embrace the Gospel, the word of Faith had already the word / seed implanted in them by the Spirit and Newbirth, Paul said that the word was in your heart here Rom 10:8 !
Gotcha! ☺
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beloved57
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Yeah, that's also what James meant here James 1:21 the engrafted word !
Nanja
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beloved57
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YW !
beloved57
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All for whom Christ died, in His Active Obedience, from the cradle to the Cross, all the requirements of God's Holy Law, that reflect His Purity and Perfections, have been performed in the Lord Jesus Christ, He in His Represenative Capacity, Honoured the Law of God for us with Perfect Obedience; Now for all whom He Lived and died as an Represenative for, each one of them individually, God the Father reckons upon them as a Free Gift of His Grace, an Unspotted Righteousness that Honored and Obeyed His Law with spotless purity, as they did it themselves Rom 5:17
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
The word gift dórea means:
a (free) gift, a gift (without repayment). The Ideal meaning is that something was bestowed and the recipient came into possession of or acquired it, or it was reckoned upon them, and so it is also written Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
They are freely made Righteous because they have received by Imputation the Free Gift of Righteousness Vs 17 Its a Righteousness that means:
in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God;
Just as Christ kept them ! Jn 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
The word gift dórea means:
a (free) gift, a gift (without repayment). The Ideal meaning is that something was bestowed and the recipient came into possession of or acquired it, or it was reckoned upon them, and so it is also written Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
They are freely made Righteous because they have received by Imputation the Free Gift of Righteousness Vs 17 Its a Righteousness that means:
in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God;
Just as Christ kept them ! Jn 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
beloved57
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More on Active Obedience of Christ !
More on Active Obedience of Christ !
There is another dimension of importance in the Obedience of Christ for His People/ Sheep, which is a passive obedience, after having satisfied for God the Law Keeping aspect for God's People, there needed to be the obedience unto the Death of the Cross Phil 2:8
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
You see, the Sheep still had sinned already, that is broken God's Law, and this passive obedience to the death of the Cross has to do with Christ, for all His Sheep, bearing their sins and its penalty, Death. They had sinned first in their Federal Natural head Adam even before they had any physical existence, thats what Rom 5:12 reveals and of course they began sinning personally following their physical existence Eph 2:2-3
So because of that Christ's Obedience cost Him His Life, since He had been made their Surety, He must suffer the Eternal Agony that their sins against God's Law so deserved, He had to become a curse for them that they may go free from any curse Gal 3:13,14
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
By doing this,He secured for them Spiritual Life as Vs 14 states, this is what all for whom He was made a curse for receives :
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
They receive the blessing of Abraham, the Spirit,which is Life from Christ !
They receive the Spirit of Life because Christ's Active and Passive Obedience has been accepted by God for them and now because of Him, they are owed Life, it must be applied to them as effectively as Death was applied to Christ on their behalf !
More on Active Obedience of Christ !
There is another dimension of importance in the Obedience of Christ for His People/ Sheep, which is a passive obedience, after having satisfied for God the Law Keeping aspect for God's People, there needed to be the obedience unto the Death of the Cross Phil 2:8
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
You see, the Sheep still had sinned already, that is broken God's Law, and this passive obedience to the death of the Cross has to do with Christ, for all His Sheep, bearing their sins and its penalty, Death. They had sinned first in their Federal Natural head Adam even before they had any physical existence, thats what Rom 5:12 reveals and of course they began sinning personally following their physical existence Eph 2:2-3
So because of that Christ's Obedience cost Him His Life, since He had been made their Surety, He must suffer the Eternal Agony that their sins against God's Law so deserved, He had to become a curse for them that they may go free from any curse Gal 3:13,14
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
By doing this,He secured for them Spiritual Life as Vs 14 states, this is what all for whom He was made a curse for receives :
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
They receive the blessing of Abraham, the Spirit,which is Life from Christ !
They receive the Spirit of Life because Christ's Active and Passive Obedience has been accepted by God for them and now because of Him, they are owed Life, it must be applied to them as effectively as Death was applied to Christ on their behalf !
beloved57
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Faith to Live and Serve God by !
Faith to Live and Serve God by !
Its no fluke that the scriptures state emphatically that the Just shall live by Faith Rom 1:17 that being all for whom Christ died, because His death of obedience makes them Just or Righteous Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. or Just ! Thats because the word righteous dikaios means:
just; especially, just in the eyes of God; righteous; the elect (a Jewish idea).
Its translated Just 6 times !
Now since Christ's Obedience makes one Just in the eyes of God, if He died for you, then the promise made to the Just is what ?
Rom 1:17
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Its promised to them all that they shall live and experience a Life of Faith !
So if one does not believe on Christ, it means Christ did not die for them, or else Rom 1:17 and Rom 5:19 are Lies !
But scripture confirms scripture, and the effects of the Obedience of Christ unto death and or the shedding of His Blood, is that those He died for shall Live by Faith and serve the Living God, this also confirmed by Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Look whats in this verse : "How much more shall the blood of Christ purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?"
Now if thats not a clear declaration of the effect of the Blood of Christ, I dont know what is ! His Blood shed via His death ensures the purification of conscience from dead works to the serving of the True and Living God, which serving cannot be without Faith, So hence Faith is ensured by the Blood of Christ !
The word serve here, the greek word latreuó :
I serve, especially God, perhaps simply: I worship.
The Blood of Christ ensures True Worship of God ! Remember Paul wrote Phil 3:3
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Guess what ? Thats the effect of the Blood of Christ being shed for him/them ! The serving / worshipping God in the Spirit is the result and effect of Christ's Blood shed for anyone it was shed for !
Now any denial of this Truth, any opposition to it, is antichrist ! Its absolutely impossible for anyone Christ died for ,not to eventually in this Life , begin to live by Faith and serving the True and Living God, else Christ's Blood was not even as effective as that of bulls and goats !
Faith to Live and Serve God by !
Its no fluke that the scriptures state emphatically that the Just shall live by Faith Rom 1:17 that being all for whom Christ died, because His death of obedience makes them Just or Righteous Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. or Just ! Thats because the word righteous dikaios means:
just; especially, just in the eyes of God; righteous; the elect (a Jewish idea).
Its translated Just 6 times !
Now since Christ's Obedience makes one Just in the eyes of God, if He died for you, then the promise made to the Just is what ?
Rom 1:17
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Its promised to them all that they shall live and experience a Life of Faith !
So if one does not believe on Christ, it means Christ did not die for them, or else Rom 1:17 and Rom 5:19 are Lies !
But scripture confirms scripture, and the effects of the Obedience of Christ unto death and or the shedding of His Blood, is that those He died for shall Live by Faith and serve the Living God, this also confirmed by Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Look whats in this verse : "How much more shall the blood of Christ purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?"
Now if thats not a clear declaration of the effect of the Blood of Christ, I dont know what is ! His Blood shed via His death ensures the purification of conscience from dead works to the serving of the True and Living God, which serving cannot be without Faith, So hence Faith is ensured by the Blood of Christ !
The word serve here, the greek word latreuó :
I serve, especially God, perhaps simply: I worship.
The Blood of Christ ensures True Worship of God ! Remember Paul wrote Phil 3:3
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Guess what ? Thats the effect of the Blood of Christ being shed for him/them ! The serving / worshipping God in the Spirit is the result and effect of Christ's Blood shed for anyone it was shed for !
Now any denial of this Truth, any opposition to it, is antichrist ! Its absolutely impossible for anyone Christ died for ,not to eventually in this Life , begin to live by Faith and serving the True and Living God, else Christ's Blood was not even as effective as that of bulls and goats !
beloved57
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Faith to Live and Serve God by ! 2
Faith to Live and Serve God by ! 2
Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
The Blood of Christ, the Blood He shed for many Matt 26:28, for all of them He did die for, that Blood effects a Power inwardly unto them, which causes them to begin to serve the Living God.
They do partake of the New Covenant Blessings within His Blood, that does affect the inward parts Jer 31:33
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Heb 8:10
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
It is then they can and do begin to serve the Law of God with their Mind and Heart like Paul says here Rom 7:25
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Yes, this sering of the Law of God with His Mind was an effect of the Blood of Christ Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Faith to Live and Serve God by ! 2
Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
The Blood of Christ, the Blood He shed for many Matt 26:28, for all of them He did die for, that Blood effects a Power inwardly unto them, which causes them to begin to serve the Living God.
They do partake of the New Covenant Blessings within His Blood, that does affect the inward parts Jer 31:33
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Heb 8:10
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
It is then they can and do begin to serve the Law of God with their Mind and Heart like Paul says here Rom 7:25
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Yes, this sering of the Law of God with His Mind was an effect of the Blood of Christ Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
beloved57
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Rom 5:17
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Now who is it that receives the Gift of Righteousness ?
Why its those Christ died for, by His Obedience alone they are made Righteous Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Yes, that being made Righteous is the same as in Vs 17 as receiving the Gift of Righteousness !
Now what is the Promise to those who received the Gift of Righteousness or were made Righteous ? The Promise is :
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
What this means, those who have by the Obedience of Christ, have been made Righteous, they shall receive a New Birth, a New Life, a New Life of Spiritual Victory and Liberty, which consists in a Life of Faith 1 Jn 5:4
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
In order to reign in Life they must have Two things given them, Life Spiritually and Faith. They are made Kings and Priests 1 Pet 2:9
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
Rev 5:10
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
The Main Point of Rom 5:17,is just as the result of the one offence of Adam was death, we begin our earthly and natural life in spiritual death and alienation from God, But likewise and through Jesus Christ, all who are made Righteous Rom 5:19, Shall be made alive to reign in Life ! So if anyone Christ died for does not reign spiritually in Life here on earth, then Christ's death comes to nothing !
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Now who is it that receives the Gift of Righteousness ?
Why its those Christ died for, by His Obedience alone they are made Righteous Rom 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Yes, that being made Righteous is the same as in Vs 17 as receiving the Gift of Righteousness !
Now what is the Promise to those who received the Gift of Righteousness or were made Righteous ? The Promise is :
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
What this means, those who have by the Obedience of Christ, have been made Righteous, they shall receive a New Birth, a New Life, a New Life of Spiritual Victory and Liberty, which consists in a Life of Faith 1 Jn 5:4
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
In order to reign in Life they must have Two things given them, Life Spiritually and Faith. They are made Kings and Priests 1 Pet 2:9
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
Rev 5:10
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
The Main Point of Rom 5:17,is just as the result of the one offence of Adam was death, we begin our earthly and natural life in spiritual death and alienation from God, But likewise and through Jesus Christ, all who are made Righteous Rom 5:19, Shall be made alive to reign in Life ! So if anyone Christ died for does not reign spiritually in Life here on earth, then Christ's death comes to nothing !
beloved57
Well-known member
It causes those He died for to become overcomers !
It causes those He died for to become overcomers !
Rev 12:11
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Here we see that John attributes the Churches Overcoming the devil not by our Faith, but First and foremost by the Blood of the Lamb !
The word overcome nikaó :
I conquer, am victorious, overcome, prevail, subdue.
Now the attributing cause or reason for this overcoming is stated to by by διά the prepostion that means:
gen: through, throughout, by the instrumentality of, (b) acc: through, on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of.
of one who is the author of the action as well as its instrument, or of the efficient cause
It could read : "And they overcame him [The Devil] by reason of the Blood of the Lamb "
Its on account of the Blood that we become overcomers by Faith 1 Jn 5:4
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
The Blood of Christ is the reason why that those who Christ died for receive a New Birth of the Spirit by which the Gift or Fruit of Faith accompanies it Gal 5:22 and that God given Faith gives them Victory that overcometh the World, Flesh and devil.
Remember the writer of the Hebrews Letter says that its by the Blood that our conscience is purged from dead works to serve the Living God Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
You see that ? That right there is an aspect of how the Blood of the Lamb causes us to overcome the dead works of false religion, thats a Victory over the devil, since he causes many to believe lies 1 Tim 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
The Blood of Christ is the Primary Cause why God's Elect People cannot remain deceived ! And why Jesus says Matt 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Now all of the Elect by nature are as others born deceived as Paul alludes to here Titus 3:3
For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
But Thanks to the Blood of the Lamb, we the Elect cannot remain deceived, we must by the Power and Authority in the Blood of the Lamb be undeceived ! This is something accomplished by the Atonement of Christ !
It causes those He died for to become overcomers !
Rev 12:11
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Here we see that John attributes the Churches Overcoming the devil not by our Faith, but First and foremost by the Blood of the Lamb !
The word overcome nikaó :
I conquer, am victorious, overcome, prevail, subdue.
Now the attributing cause or reason for this overcoming is stated to by by διά the prepostion that means:
gen: through, throughout, by the instrumentality of, (b) acc: through, on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, because of.
of one who is the author of the action as well as its instrument, or of the efficient cause
It could read : "And they overcame him [The Devil] by reason of the Blood of the Lamb "
Its on account of the Blood that we become overcomers by Faith 1 Jn 5:4
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
The Blood of Christ is the reason why that those who Christ died for receive a New Birth of the Spirit by which the Gift or Fruit of Faith accompanies it Gal 5:22 and that God given Faith gives them Victory that overcometh the World, Flesh and devil.
Remember the writer of the Hebrews Letter says that its by the Blood that our conscience is purged from dead works to serve the Living God Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
You see that ? That right there is an aspect of how the Blood of the Lamb causes us to overcome the dead works of false religion, thats a Victory over the devil, since he causes many to believe lies 1 Tim 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
The Blood of Christ is the Primary Cause why God's Elect People cannot remain deceived ! And why Jesus says Matt 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Now all of the Elect by nature are as others born deceived as Paul alludes to here Titus 3:3
For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
But Thanks to the Blood of the Lamb, we the Elect cannot remain deceived, we must by the Power and Authority in the Blood of the Lamb be undeceived ! This is something accomplished by the Atonement of Christ !
Nanja
Well-known member
Amen!
It's impossible for the Elect that Christ shed His Blood for to remain in religious deception and unbelief.
Because even before we were born into this world as sinners, His Blood was already applied to us in eternity Col. 2:13.
Paul in his letter to the Romans was addressing the Beloved, those who were called to be Saints Rom. 1:7 (that's the Elect),
when he explains how that, even while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us Rom. 5:8. And so, in time , it is guaranteed
to become manifested by Faith and Repentance He gives us in the New Birth.
No religion of man, nor any other works he may do in the flesh, can ever accomplish
what the Blood of the Lamb has accomplished for all of His Election of Grace.
Praise God for the Blood of Christ!
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