She likes to set up strawmen to attack.
ECT SO WHERE IS CORNELIUS NOW , IN THE KINGDOM OR THE B O C ??
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You can tell her that a million times and she still won't catch on.
She imagines things and starts swinging her stick at her illusions.
glorydaz
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Blinded. Why is she blind to the Gospel? I say it's her pride in her so-called obedience....same problem the Jews had. I wonder if it's a result of remaining under the schoolmaster too long. They are supposed to see their guilt, and realize they cannot be perfect. They never seem to realize that, though, and put their faith in the law and Moses instead of Jesus Christ and His Grace.
Isaiah 6:10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
glorydaz
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Who was that dude who battled windmills?
God's Truth
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You shouldn't play it that way.
God's Truth
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He thought it was about Christians assembling, or he wouldn't have brought it up.
glorydaz
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Don Quixote
He had poor eyesight and thought they were dragons!
That's right. I can't believe I forgot that. Thanks, doll. I knew you'd know.
glorydaz
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We should start calling her Dim Quixote.
Mr. Magoo played him in the cartoons.
glorydaz
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Good choice. :chuckle:
Yeah it was!
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We are not obliged to think that the Holy Spirit was nowhere present in Cornelius' life and house prior to Peter's arrival, or the angel's visit. He had apparently been working there and on the persons in that house for who knows how long, bringing them to a point of readiness to receive the message of salvation at the appropriate time.
We must take OT dynamics into account here as well. Gentiles from ancient days (e.g. Naaman, the Syrian) had devoted themselves to the God of Israel, serving him in what limited capacity as they could under the restrictions of the Old Covenant. Becoming fully Jewish (by circumcision) wasn't always possible, but God had clearly drawn outsiders into the "orbit" at least of the church. This is evidenced most clearly in the existence of the Temple's Court of the Gentiles. Eunuchs and lepers could never enter fully into the OT church's life, but this was not the same as being a castaway.
So, we find Cornelius providentially brought to Palestine, and there (perhaps) he is drawn to the virtuous life of some devout Jews. He reads or has read and taught to him the OT Scriptures. He begins to fear the Lord according to the light shown to him (Acts 10:2).
Remember too, that it is in the knowledge of Jesus that we are saved. And so it was for every holy Jew who heard of Jesus only after his ascension. They were the elect while they lived ignorantly of his life and ministry and even death. Certain ones may have even died in that state after Christ's earthly mission was accomplished, still "hoping" for that promised salvation. And entering heaven, discovered that their hopes had been realized even while they breathed.
Yet, for every (already) OT believer that heard the saving Word of Christ, no less than the ungodly who heard and turned to Christ in faith, it was nothing less than salvation for the OT believer at that moment, when the OT believer embraced this new, fulfilled reality by faith. So it is with Cornelius. The message that comes to Cornelius is the saving message of Jesus. And it does save him.
AMR
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You just continue to show your immense stupidity.
Jerry Shugart
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Just curious, but are you the person who originally wrote the following:
We are not obliged to think that the Holy Spirit was nowhere present in Cornelius' life and house prior to Peter's arrival, or the angel's visit. He had apparently been working there and on the persons in that house for who knows how long, bringing them to a point of readiness to receive the message of salvation at the appropriate time.
https://www.puritanboard.com/threads/cornelius-and-total-depravity.2195/
https://www.puritanboard.com/threads/cornelius-and-total-depravity.2195/
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So, in other words, Cornelius was nothing new. So why all the scriptural attention?
Are you trying to say that these two things are the same?
Acts 10:34-35 (AKJV/PCE)
(10:34) ¶ Then Peter opened [his] mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: (10:35) But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Titus 3:4-7 (AKJV/PCE)
(3:4) But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, (3:5) Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; (3:6) Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; (3:7) That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Those are not the same and are in conflict apart from understanding that God's instructions change from time to time.
Peter was not preaching the gospel of the grace of God (to Cornelius) which does not allow works of righteousness to have any part in salvation. Not once in Peter's speech to Cornelius do we find the preaching of grace by faith without works. That preaching is exclusively Pauline.
Interplanner
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More RD nonsense. Acts 10:43 says that even all the prophets spoke of the forgiveness of sins through Christ. Which is why Judaism was so confused about everything. The fact of his preaching the same Christ he always had been, and predicating it on "all the prophets" shows that the literalists have once again molested the Bible into something it doesn't mean.
Apparently Cornelius was approached because he was receptive, but not because Peter had another kind of gospel or message for him. He could not have been saved without realized that the 'good news of peace through Christ' v36 is what would justify him from his sins.