Silicon Valley Leaders’ Plea to Democrats: Anyone but Sanders

[ok doser]

Then why do you accept and benefit from stolen money?

Why do I personally?

I don't.

And the government continues to steal more, every paycheck.

 

[Traditio]

You're just taking back what's yours.

If workers seize the means of production and confiscate the wealth of the owner class, they would simply be taking back the excess value that they produced which the bourgeoisie appropriated from them.

 

[ok doser]

... the excess value that they produced ...

sorry - that "excess value" doesn't exist absent the bourgeoisie that you claim appropriated it

if you think it does, go create it on your own, without them



Open your own co-operatively owned pizza parlor and run it so well that all the capitalist pizza parlors are driven out of business. Let your workers draw from the pot what they think they are worth. Let your customers pay you what they think your pizzas are worth.


Nobody is stopping you from putting your beliefs into action. Go for it!

 

[User Name]

Why do I personally?

I don't.

And the government continues to steal more, every paycheck.

You admitted the other day that one or both of your parents receives Medicare benefits:

they're covered by Medicare

and VA benefits

and Dad's pension plan

Instead of relying on stolen money, why don't you take care of their needs yourself?

 

[ok doser]

You admitted the other day that one or both of your parents receives Medicare benefits:

right

them, not me

you'll have to ask them

 

[User Name]

right

them, not me

you'll have to ask them

No, I'm saying you should take care of them yourself. You.

 

[ok doser]

No, I'm saying you should take care of them yourself. You.

that's nice :idunno:

 

[Trump Gurl]

He would definitely vote for Trump over Sanders.[/U] Sanders will destroy that party and the economy. Even liberals know that, except for a few pure idiots.

It is hard to imagine how utterly stupid someone would have to be to like that dictator loving communist. Trump destroying that man utterly will be the best thing that could happen to America

Everything I see in this thread only confirms and reaffirms those two quotes.

 

[Ktoyou]

Come crying to me about morals when the capitalists voluntarily pay their workers a living wage out of the kindness of their hearts.

Do you really think the capitalists are going belly up over Bernie Sanders? Do you really think they are just walking away from what they have because of a politician?

 

[Right Divider]

That's one way to rationalize theft. You're just taking back what's yours.

Taking back WHAT'S YOURS is, by definition, NOT THEFT.

 

[User Name]

Taking back WHAT'S YOURS is, by definition, NOT THEFT.

You're getting it taken out of your paycheck, so it's theft...but then you're getting it back, so...it's not theft.

 

[Right Divider]

You're getting it taken out of your paycheck, so it's theft...but then you're getting it back, so...it's not theft.

That is correct. You don't seem to have the slightest idea what ownership means.

 

[User Name]

That is correct. You don't seem to have the slightest idea what ownership means.

It's theft not theft!

 

[Right Divider]

It's theft not theft!

You're being an idiot.

I cannot steal my OWN MONEY.

 

[User Name]

You're being an idiot.

I cannot steal my OWN MONEY.

Do you think car insurance is theft?

 

[Right Divider]

Do you think car insurance is theft?

No... are you anywhere near having a point?

 

[User Name]

No... are you anywhere near having a point?

Perhaps you are beginning to see why it is so ridiculous to call social security, Medicare, etc., "theft." They are basically all forms of insurance. As such, they are there for you if/when you need them. They are not "theft."

 

[Right Divider]

Perhaps you are beginning to see why it is so ridiculous to call social security, Medicare, etc., "theft." They are basically all forms of insurance.

When a person CHOOSES to buy insurance, that is legit.

As such, they are there for you if/when you need them. They are not "theft."

When a person is FORCED to buy insurance, that is WRONG!

 

[User Name]

When a person CHOOSES to buy insurance, that is legit.


When a person is FORCED to buy insurance, that is WRONG!

Are you forced to buy car insurance?

 

[Right Divider]

Are you forced to buy car insurance?

In some states and that is WRONG too.