Kimberlyann
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I would be quite happy to see those scumbags put to death.
Should homosexuals be given the death penalty?
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I would be quite happy to see those scumbags put to death.
:rotfl: :up:
Yet again - funny how Jesus NEVER ONCE felt inclined to even mention homosexuality, so why is it such a topic of conversation on here exactly? Do you think that Jesus would support the killing of adulterers in todays society as well? :think:
Thats a start. :up:
Do you think anyone else who commits a certain crime should be put to death?
Do you think that Jesus disagreed with His Father?
Kimberlyann
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Do you keep all of the 613 commandments written in the Law of Moses?
Quincy
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that is a vial act of karma, molestation. it carries the imprint from the first to initiate to all the victims. i would hope a child of a person trapped in that karma would be so lucky that their parent becomes enlightened to the act and ends it. all we can have is hope for those who dont have it.
Kimberlyann
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Depends on the crime.
Here is a list of capital crimes in the Old Testament. Should we reinstate them all?
Murder (Exodus 21:12, Exodus 21:15)
Kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)
Disobedience to parents (Exodus 21:17, Deuteronomy 21:18)
Juvenile delinquency - incorrigibility (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
Bestiality (Leviticus 20:15)
Violations of the Sabbath (Exodus 31:15)
Adultery (Leviticus 20:10)
Abominations (Leviticus 20:2)
Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:16)
Incest (Leviticus 20:11)
Homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13)
Witchcraft (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27)
False prophecy (Deuteronomy 13:5)
Worshipping a false god (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)
Sacrificing to false gods (Exodus 22:20)
Sodomy (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13)
Sex with a woman betrothed to another (Deuteronomy 22:25)
False witness in a capital crime (Deuteronomy 19:16-20)
Fornication by daughters of priests (Leviticus 21:9)
Failure to abide by a decision of the High Court (Deuteronomy 17:12)
Unchastity (Deuteronomy 22:21-24)
Cursing someone (Leviticus 24:14)
Negligence resulting in death (Exodus 21:29)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_capital_crimes_in_the_bible
Do you think that Jesus came to give us a new covenant? Was it not Jesus himself who said that we were supposed to love our enemies instead of hating them? Was it not Jesus who spared an adultererous woman's life despite the law requiring her to be killed? do you think that Jesus should have let the mob stone her to death? You lot are sooooo selective where it comes to what laws should be applicable today :doh:
SOUTHERN BAPTISTS MERGE WITH DISNEY
Once upon a time there was a group called the Southern Baptist Convention, which locked horns (possibly an unfortunate metaphor) every year with another group called Walt Disney Incorporated. The mdeia reported that the issue was the sexual content of movies made by Disney subsidiaries or the equal respect it showed to both gay and straight employees at its theme parks. The Southern Baptist Convention held that gays should repent, change, and go straight. Gays responded that such was not possible, that they had never met such transformed individuals, but they had often met fundamentalists who had repented, changed, and become Christian. Be that as it may, the media got it completely wrong. The debate was not over morality or even the differing views of morality. It was not over the Bible, the New Testament, or the Gospels, over where they were permanently valid ("Love your enemies") and where they were socially relative ("Slaves, obey your masteres"). It was actually over the global control of fantasy.
The contest was between two giant corporations over the worldwide missionary expansion of illusional entertainment. Both were, at least in large doses, equally if differently dangerous. With Walt Disney Incorporated it was sometimes difficult to tell reality from fantasy as cartoon characters, literary figures, historical events, geographical places, and evetually religious traditions disappeared into animated illusion. With the Southern Baptist Convention it was difficult to distinguish between religion and history. But, locked together, the object of the battle was obvious. Who, for the next century or even the next millennium, would control the transmutation of reality into fantasy, of religious reality into religious fantasy, and of secular reality into secular fantasy?
The only solution was to bring in a conflict-management arbitrator to negotiate a final solution before the parties destroyed one another. She spoke about the dangers of giant corporations fighting to the death rather than arranging sensible compromise. She said she wished that Apple and IBM had combined forces to make the original personal computer and that Microsoft had died aborning. (She admitted that the last comment might have been unfair because she realised the difficulty or reinventing the wheel without infringing on its first patent. It did, however, make the final product more complicated than the original.)
After only a few weeks, the deal was concluded. Walt Disney Incorporated and the Southern Baptist Convention amalgamated freely and evenly - not a hostile takeover or even a friendly buy-out, but an absolutely equal combination. It was like, as the arbitrator had said, Harper and Collins becoming HarperCollins-Publishers. Two erstwhile enemies became BaptistDisney-Entertainments.
They started immediately to plan for the future. There would be a new giant theme park, wiping out any recent gains made by Universal Studios' Escape and taking up all of the rest of Central Florida, from sea to shining sea. It would have an attractive Garden of Eden, where visitors could create different original sins and divergent histories of the world, and an interactive Rapture Ride and Millennial Slaughter, where visitors could invent alternative atrocities to exterminate the ungodly. The possibilities were endless.
There was only one cloud on the horizon. The U.S. Justice Department moved immediately to forbid the merger and to prevent BaptistDisney-Entertainments from obtaining a monopoly on world fantasy. But a good legal defense was able to overturn that prohibition. Clearly, there were still other major contenders in the market. There were Hollywood's special effects wizards, England's Royal Family, Rome's Vatican City, and Israel's National Parks Authority, which, according to Time Magazine for February 22m 1999, "has approved a 262-ft.-long transparent bridge to be built just below the surface of the Sea of Galilee so visitors can follow in the footsteps of Christ... After it opens in August, [the contractor Ron Major] expects up to 800,000 people a year to pay a minimum fee to walk on water. And, yes, lifeguards will be on hand in case anyone strays from the true path. That issue was actually introduced as an exhibit for the defense.
Eventually, the Justice Department agreed: BaptistDisney-Entertainments would not be a monopoloy, just number one. Everything was now perfect, although an op-ed in the New York Times warned, from somewhere in William Butler Yeats's poetry, that when a heart grows up on fantasy, it often grows old on brutality.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache...+chloroform&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&ie=UTF-8
Once upon a time there was a group called the Southern Baptist Convention, which locked horns (possibly an unfortunate metaphor) every year with another group called Walt Disney Incorporated. The mdeia reported that the issue was the sexual content of movies made by Disney subsidiaries or the equal respect it showed to both gay and straight employees at its theme parks. The Southern Baptist Convention held that gays should repent, change, and go straight. Gays responded that such was not possible, that they had never met such transformed individuals, but they had often met fundamentalists who had repented, changed, and become Christian. Be that as it may, the media got it completely wrong. The debate was not over morality or even the differing views of morality. It was not over the Bible, the New Testament, or the Gospels, over where they were permanently valid ("Love your enemies") and where they were socially relative ("Slaves, obey your masteres"). It was actually over the global control of fantasy.
The contest was between two giant corporations over the worldwide missionary expansion of illusional entertainment. Both were, at least in large doses, equally if differently dangerous. With Walt Disney Incorporated it was sometimes difficult to tell reality from fantasy as cartoon characters, literary figures, historical events, geographical places, and evetually religious traditions disappeared into animated illusion. With the Southern Baptist Convention it was difficult to distinguish between religion and history. But, locked together, the object of the battle was obvious. Who, for the next century or even the next millennium, would control the transmutation of reality into fantasy, of religious reality into religious fantasy, and of secular reality into secular fantasy?
The only solution was to bring in a conflict-management arbitrator to negotiate a final solution before the parties destroyed one another. She spoke about the dangers of giant corporations fighting to the death rather than arranging sensible compromise. She said she wished that Apple and IBM had combined forces to make the original personal computer and that Microsoft had died aborning. (She admitted that the last comment might have been unfair because she realised the difficulty or reinventing the wheel without infringing on its first patent. It did, however, make the final product more complicated than the original.)
After only a few weeks, the deal was concluded. Walt Disney Incorporated and the Southern Baptist Convention amalgamated freely and evenly - not a hostile takeover or even a friendly buy-out, but an absolutely equal combination. It was like, as the arbitrator had said, Harper and Collins becoming HarperCollins-Publishers. Two erstwhile enemies became BaptistDisney-Entertainments.
They started immediately to plan for the future. There would be a new giant theme park, wiping out any recent gains made by Universal Studios' Escape and taking up all of the rest of Central Florida, from sea to shining sea. It would have an attractive Garden of Eden, where visitors could create different original sins and divergent histories of the world, and an interactive Rapture Ride and Millennial Slaughter, where visitors could invent alternative atrocities to exterminate the ungodly. The possibilities were endless.
There was only one cloud on the horizon. The U.S. Justice Department moved immediately to forbid the merger and to prevent BaptistDisney-Entertainments from obtaining a monopoly on world fantasy. But a good legal defense was able to overturn that prohibition. Clearly, there were still other major contenders in the market. There were Hollywood's special effects wizards, England's Royal Family, Rome's Vatican City, and Israel's National Parks Authority, which, according to Time Magazine for February 22m 1999, "has approved a 262-ft.-long transparent bridge to be built just below the surface of the Sea of Galilee so visitors can follow in the footsteps of Christ... After it opens in August, [the contractor Ron Major] expects up to 800,000 people a year to pay a minimum fee to walk on water. And, yes, lifeguards will be on hand in case anyone strays from the true path. That issue was actually introduced as an exhibit for the defense.
Eventually, the Justice Department agreed: BaptistDisney-Entertainments would not be a monopoloy, just number one. Everything was now perfect, although an op-ed in the New York Times warned, from somewhere in William Butler Yeats's poetry, that when a heart grows up on fantasy, it often grows old on brutality.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache...+chloroform&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&ie=UTF-8
Not to butt in, but what do you make of these two verses?
Leviticus 12:3
And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Galatians 5:2
Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
only those who violate or kill another person would warrant the death penalty - and only then if its proven beyond any shadow of a doubt and that there werent any extenuating circumstances such as diminished responsibilty etc, the acts of two consentual adults are their own business.....
What do you think? Do you think any of them should apply? Child molesters should be put to death, so anyone else?
Great, now would you like to answer my question?
Memento Mori
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Why don't you answer rather than reposing the question for the original inquirer? No offense, but I want to see your answers rather than turning away unless of course you're trying to make a point which is the message I'm getting but it's really been running too long.
It is my position that the criminal portion of the Law has always applied to all people and the symbolic portion of the Law has only ever applied to the Jews.
uk_mikey
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Can someone give an intelligent rundown of how and why these vary in importance, or how they may or may not apply to today?
That would be helpful in helping people accept that homosexuality should receive the death penalty.
It would certainly help to convince those who aren't convinced.
If there happened to be little variance in importance, and it was thought that most or all of these laws should be instigated, then can we get past the any clever juggling of Scripture, and have a defining set of Scriptures which put to rest the doubts?
Please?
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You act as though I have not answered that before, to you directly.
It was just answered! Whatever laws were in place at that time applied to that time, would you sooner we go back to them for ALL of the laws that have been laid out? How about you start answering some questions? Do you think that Jesus should have let the adulterous woman die as the law commanded or do you think that he gave a highly relevant message to that self righteous bloodthirsty mob that wanted to stone her to death? Do you think that adultery should be a capital crime in todays society?
By your command, sir. Two posts is quite a few, isn't it?