Yes, it is interesting, hypocrisy abounds, maybe its about time that christianity on here focussed on helping others and not sitting in pious judgement.....
Should homosexuals be given the death penalty?
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Yes, it is interesting, hypocrisy abounds, maybe its about time that christianity on here focussed on helping others and not sitting in pious judgement.....
Kimberlyann
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To compile:
DESERVING OF DEATH:
Unrighteousness,
Sexual immorality,
Wickedness,
Covetousness,
Maliciousness;
Full of envy,
Murder,
Strife,
Deceit,
Evil-mindedness;
They are whisperers,
Backbiters,
Haters of God,
Violent,
Proud,
Boasters,
Inventors of evil things,
Disobedient to parents,
Undiscerning,
Untrustworthy,
Unloving,
Unforgiving,
Unmerciful.
(IMPORTANT) ALSO DESERVING OF DEATH:
Not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. - Paul
We're going to need to set up some polls here. And I think we all have some thinking to do.
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Great post :up:
i'm amazed at how many times all of those above behaviours are conviently sidelined in favour at the disgust of homosexuality, there's not so much room for self righteous condemnation on most of the rest of that list, we're all guilty of at least a handful of those.......
Murder (Exodus 21:12, Exodus 21:15) criminal
Kidnapping (Exodus 21:16) criminal
Disobedience to parents (Exodus 21:17, Deuteronomy 21:18) criminalI believe this is referring to extreme cases
Juvenile delinquency - incorrigibility (Deuteronomy 21:18-21) criminal same as above
Bestiality (Leviticus 20:15) criminal
Violations of the Sabbath (Exodus 31:15) symbolic
Adultery (Leviticus 20:10) criminal
Abominations (Leviticus 20:2)
Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:16) symbolic
Incest (Leviticus 20:11) criminal
Homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13) criminal
Witchcraft (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27) symbolic
False prophecy (Deuteronomy 13:5) symbolic
Worshipping a false god (Deuteronomy 13:6-10) symbolic
Sacrificing to false gods (Exodus 22:20) symbolic
Sodomy (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13) criminal
Sex with a woman betrothed to another (Deuteronomy 22:25) criminal
False witness in a capital crime (Deuteronomy 19:16-20) criminal
Fornication by daughters of priests (Leviticus 21:9)
Failure to abide by a decision of the High Court (Deuteronomy 17:12)
Unchastity (Deuteronomy 22:21-24)
Cursing someone (Leviticus 24:14)
Negligence resulting in death (Exodus 21:29)criminal
I answered most of them. I would have to do further study to answer the rest, but I'm guessing most of the ones I didn't answer were symbolic laws that never were meant to apply to gentiles.
Kimberlyann
New member
To compile:
DESERVING OF DEATH:
Unrighteousness,
Sexual immorality,
Wickedness,
Covetousness,
Maliciousness;
Full of envy,
Murder,
Strife,
Deceit,
Evil-mindedness;
They are whisperers,
Backbiters,
Haters of God,
Violent,
Proud,
Boasters,
Inventors of evil things,
Disobedient to parents,
Undiscerning,
Untrustworthy,
Unloving,
Unforgiving,
Unmerciful.
(IMPORTANT) ALSO DESERVING OF DEATH:
Not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. - Paul
We're going to need to set up some polls here. And I think we all have some thinking to do.
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It has to do with discerning which laws were never intended to be kept by non Jews and which ones are intended to be kept by all people!
Kimberlyann
New member
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Another thing to note is that ALL crimes are sin, but not all sins are crimes.
dying_star
New member
Trebor has already been talking about it. When the Pharisees went to stone the woman caught in the act of adultery, He tells them that "those of you without sin, cast the first stone." After He gets done with them, He lets her go, telling her to "go and sin no more."
If Jesus advocated hating the sinner, He would have carelessly let the Pharisees stone the woman. Jesus would have never died on the cross to save us from our sins if He hated sinners. He hates our sin, because it separates us from Him.
To compile:
DESERVING OF DEATH:
Unrighteousness,
Sexual immorality,
Wickedness,
Covetousness,
Maliciousness;
Full of envy,
Murder,
Strife,
Deceit,
Evil-mindedness;
They are whisperers,
Backbiters,
Haters of God,
Violent,
Proud,
Boasters,
Inventors of evil things,
Disobedient to parents,
Undiscerning,
Untrustworthy,
Unloving,
Unforgiving,
Unmerciful.
(IMPORTANT) ALSO DESERVING OF DEATH:
Not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. - Paul
We're going to need to set up some polls here. And I think we all have some thinking to do.
And yet many of the things on your list are not, and never should be considered criminal.
Kimberlyann
New member
Please tell me how you come to the conclusion that some of those laws are only symbolic and not intended for everyone?
Memento Mori
New member
Why would you think that Gentiles don't get all the Law but just part of it?
Jesus said "for, verily I say to you, till that the heaven and the earth may pass away, one iota or one tittle may not pass away from the law, till that all may come to pass." Matt 5:18
It's all or nothing. You can't just divide the Law and say "well this wasn't meant for us."
Bingo. If the questions were answered, it would have led to a discussion of symbolic laws verses corporate laws.
Kimberlyann
New member
But all of those 23 sins are capital crimes according to the OT.
That she could not be convicted without two wittinesses?
Why did He say that? Tell the whole story.
Since we are all sinners, does God contradict himself when He says to put someone to death?
Shimei showed you an obvious example of how to tell the difference.
If the Bible clearly states that it is a crime for Jews not to be circumcised, but it is not even expected of Gentiles, clearly circumcision is symbolic law!
Are they considered worthy of death? :think: