Just Tom said:
That is actually incorrect.. Yours is a gospel of death by niceness.. He can forgive them if they repent but this isn't about should we try to get them to repent it is about should the government give homos the death penalty and that CHRISTIAN answer is yes. It is criminal behavior and should be treated as such..
No it is not. Just because I don't advocate that people be put to death for being gay does not mean i don't tell them that their are consequences for their sins. They run the risk of an eternal death. I can then ask them if they would like to avoid that and a dialog ensues. Very effective for sharing!
Just Tom said:
You are correct that God doesn't want people dead that is why he said that HOMOS should be put to death under the LAW that it is GOOD and LAWFUL to do so and that it is CHRISTIAN to do that..
Did you read that sentence before you posted it? You just said God doesn't want peole dead so that is why He wants us to kill them. :dizzy: That one hurst to think about! If we kill people before they have a chance to hear the gospel, what is their chance of spending eternity with God? Do you think good will be pleased with a shoot first, ask questions later policy?
Just Tom said:
Should you punish you child for smoking dope or just say son Jesus loves you come to church! And then say to the government dope should be legal since Jesus forgave the woman caught in adultery. Your logic is foolish and it will only suceed in you child becoming further entrenched in his sin and rebellion.
I find talking to my children about the dangers of drugs and immoral sex (i.e. AIDS, STD's, etc.) to be far more effective than punishing them for doing something they were never educated on. They are firmly biased against smoking right now! They also understand that a baby is a baby and Daddy will not support certain choices. They know where they stand because they have been taught. Same applies to other sinners. Educate them so that they see their sinful ways and repent. All we can do is share the Gospel of Jesus. The Holy Spirit must convict them of their sins, not us.
Just Tom said:
The same if true for the homosexual. If it is legal then they have no reason to seek the change that Jesus can offer now do they. And at the same time they will do everything they can to suppress the truth of the Gospel.
If they know they will be killed, all that will happen is that they will go underground. It will not change their hearts, just their actions. But then that might be all you really want, get them out of the headlilnes. At least that way you can claim victory without ever helping a single lost soul.
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I don't get why you insist on singling out one sexual immoral act for the death penalty. The Law that you so dearly love clearly advocates the death penalty for adultery as well. Fornication too.
I also noted that you failed to respond to a couple of things I would like your opinion on:
CabinetMaker said:
I never read in any of the Gospels where Jesus started witnessing to a sinner by saying, "I love you so much I want you dead." He alsways said go and sin no more. He never said go and present yourself to authorities so that you may be, lovingly, exicuted.
The Apostles never went to the their churches saying that sinners under the law needed to be exicuted. They taught that sins were forgiven.
Have you been succesful witnessing to people be starting out with something like, "You should be exicuted because your are gay." Are people real open to the gospel when start out with God wants you dead?
