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tetelestai

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Also, you just made my point: Ayers views the stars and stripes the same way you view the Confederate flag. Why is he wrong and you're not?

The Stars and Stripes is the flag of the United States.

The Confederate Flag is not.

Somehow you guys think the two flags are on equal footing.
 

musterion

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Just don't fly your racist flag on government property.

State's right to fly it if they want. If a sitting admin pulls down the flag, another could be elected that will put it right back up, because that's what a majority of the people wanted.

You'd have a problem with that, of course. You're all for people having rights when they agree with you. Because you're a leftist.
 

musterion

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The Stars and Stripes is the flag of the United States.

The Confederate Flag is not.

Somehow you guys think the two flags are on equal footing.

You're not as sly as you think.

Because of liberal pant-wetters like you, we're talking here about what flags are perceived and felt to represent, not what they actually are. So in this discussion, they are on equal footing.
 

musterion

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That's because it has no other meaning.

It's a flag that symbolizes racial hatred.

Do any documents from the Confederacy's adopting that flag note that they intended it to represent slavery and hatred? Or is that your retrofitting it according to your leftism?

Primary source evidence. Show it or shut up.
 

tetelestai

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State's right to fly it if they want.

Yes, we all know that.

If a sitting admin pulls down the flag, another could be elected that will put it right back up, because that's what a majority of the people wanted.

We all know that also.

You'd have a problem with that, of course. You're all for people having rights when they agree with you. Because you're a leftist.

No, Republican Governor Nikki Haley and Republican Senators Graham and Scott are going about getting the flag removed the correct way.

It's going to require a two-thirds vote by the State Legislators to take the flag down.
 

Angel4Truth

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That's because it has no other meaning.

It's a flag that symbolizes racial hatred.

Again, it has plenty of meaning other than race for a great many southern people. To them it just signifies southern pride, period.

You are aware aren't you that the vast majority of southerners had no slaves, right?

You show your racism because you allow for nothing else.
 

tetelestai

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You're not as sly as you think.

Because of liberal pant-wetters like you, we're talking here about what flags are perceived and felt to represent, not what they actually are. So in this discussion, they are on equal footing.

We can look at the flag from both angles.

It's literally a flag that represented states that broke the law and tried to succeed from the Union, and failed miserably at it.

Symbolically, it represents racial hatred.

Either way, the Confederate Flag loses.
 

Daniel1611

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Actually, the Confederate flag represents the Confederacy. Literally. If you add connotations to it, that's your prerogative but the Confederate created a flag to represent their new country, a d that's what it represents.
 

musterion

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Actually, the Confederate flag represents the Confederacy. Literally. If you add connotations to it, that's your prerogative but the Confederate created a flag to represent their new country, a d that's what it represents.

Truth, but a leftist like Tet can't allow for that. The flag must be injected with racial feelings for it to be a useful tool to divide people.
 

tetelestai

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Actually, the Confederate flag represents the Confederacy. Literally. If you add connotations to it, that's your prerogative but the Confederate created a flag to represent their new country, a d that's what it represents.

Have you ever read what the guy who designed the Confederate Flag had to say about the flag?
 

musterion

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The Constitution.

The SCOTUS verified it.

Citation.

Nothing symbolizes racial harmony like a Confederate Flag.
Yep, black South Carolinians have been marching on the capitol every day for years, demanding that flag be taken down.

You know, to many that flag reminds them of how far we as a nation have come away from that past. It's people like you that keep throwing it up in everyone's face as if it's still going on. Like Morgan Freeman said, just quit talking about it. Let it heal. But that's not your interest here.
 

Granite

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Have you ever read what the guy who designed the Confederate Flag had to say about the flag?

These guys are acting as though either the Confederates didn't really mean what they said...or they're outright ignoring what the Confederates said in the first place. For people who profess such "pride" (in what, exactly?) that's a peculiar turn of events.
 

Angel4Truth

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These guys are acting as though either the Confederates didn't really mean what they said...or they're outright ignoring what the Confederates said in the first place. For people who profess such "pride" (in what, exactly?) that's a peculiar turn of events.

One more time, do you celebrate Christmas? Accept any holiday pay for it, etc...
 

Daniel1611

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Have you ever read what the guy who designed the Confederate Flag had to say about the flag?

So you do realize that the American flag and Constitution were created by people, many of whom owned Slaves and didn't believe black people were people. In fact, the constitution specifically protected slavery for a certain number of years. I suppose we should get rid of the Constitution as well...
 

Stripe

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People have been trying to remove this flag for years.For example, Steve Spurrier the head football coach for South Carolina said the following EIGHT YEARS ago:"My opinion is we don't need the Confederate flag at our Capitol, I don't really know anybody that wants it there, but I guess there are a lot of South Carolinians that do want it there."
Which is fine and dandy, but ignoring justice in favor of using the murder of nine people to advance this cause is the height of hypocrisy.

If that idea worked, then your Muslim buddies that do as you suggest, wouldn't have to keep doing it all the time like they do.
Comparing murder to justice shows how truly idiotic you are. Terrorists should be executed, not held up as an example of justice. Are you being especially stupid today, or have you been smoking crack?

Funny how you side with Islam when it comes to the law.
Nope. Terrorists should be executed, remember?

That has nothing to do with the Confederate Flag.
Yeah, no kidding. This thread is about the murder of nine people and things that might help reduce crime. I'm talking about justice; you want the issue to be about a false flag.

You're part of the problem.

Flying a flag that symbolizes racial hatred is not the answer.
That's right. Enacting justice and allowing liberty is the answer. :thumb:
 
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