Shooting at SC Church During Bible Study - Suspect still at large

[Granite]

So you do realize that the American flag and Constitution were created by people, many of whom owned Slaves and didn't believe black people were people. In fact, the constitution specifically protected slavery for a certain number of years. I suppose we should get rid of the Constitution as well...

You'd only have some kind of argument if the U.S. had never changed and we were no better than the Confederacy. Comparing the two countries is simply ridiculous. The fact we recognize something is wrong with what the rebel flag symbolizes (as opposed to just shrugging it off) is actually an encouraging sign.

 

[Angel4Truth]

You'd only have some kind of argument if the U.S. had never changed and we were no better than the Confederacy. Comparing the two countries is simply ridiculous.

Because the south didnt change and has no slaves, and the flag could mean something different today to most southerners...

 

[rainee]

That's like saying the swastika symbolized the German's pride of the Fatherland.

No it's like saying the Swastika represented Nazis, their principles, stand, intentions, blah blah blah just like any flag represents something to those who waive it.

C'mon! Middle Ages had battles, your war games on you computer or phone may show banners and flags - GAAAAA

ARE YOU STILL MESSING UP??

You must be doing this for some perverse fun but I tried to demonstrate yesterday if you guys wrongly and unfairly try to
Trash the South, I am willing to try to remind you how unclean your judgements may be...though success at that may be near impossible, eh?

 

[Granite]

No it's like saying the Swastika represented Nazis, their principles, stand, intentions, blah blah blah just like any flag represents something to those who waive it.

C'mon! Middle Ages had battles, your war games on you computer or phone may show banners and flags - GAAAAA

ARE YOU STILL MESSING UP??

You must be doing this for some perverse fun but I tried to demonstrate yesterday if you guys wrongly and unfairly try to
Trash the South, I am willing to try to remind you how unclean your judgements may be...though success at that may be near impossible, eh?

Judging by its higher rates of illiteracy, teen births, poverty, crime, obesity, and porn consumption, I don't think the south needs any help getting trashed.

 

[fool]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America

 

[Stripe]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America

Nine regulation-shackled people are murdered and the left thinks flags are the answer. lain:

 

[rainee]

As far as not seeing other humans as people - for pity's sake look at the dates we are talking about. The Romans conquered people and made them fight to the death as gladiators. Oh that may seem too far back? Then let's talk about some capturing the American Indians to show the savages off in London? No?
To obviously hypocritical of you?
I could go on but do I have to?


I refuse to say any of this is right. I thank God that we are not like people in the past. The Bible is right, light leads to more light and some things like this and medicine are really better.


But you better not feed the American blacks a bunch of crap.
Forget the pre war provoking - cuz you don't know what it is like to be friends and go to school and live around people of color do you - if you live up north, in the East - so righteous and indignant. Ha. You keep them away from you, like in Ferguson, right?

 

[fool]

Nine regulation-shackled people are murdered and the left thinks flags are the answer. lain:

The shooter didn't have a problem getting a gun legally, I don't suppose the victims would have had much trouble. They may have even been gun owners but didn't think they would need them at a Bible study.

 

[rainee]

Really Granite are you saying that to the black or just the white Southerners?

 

[Granite]

Really Granite are you saying that to the black or just the white Southerners?

I'm saying that southerners tend to be poorer, fatter, more violent, and more prone to illiteracy and illegitimate births than their northern neighbors.

And the rebel flag's a symbol of hatred and white supremacy, lest we forget.

 

[bybee]

I'm saying that southerners tend to be poorer, fatter, more violent, and more prone to illiteracy and illegitimate births than their northern neighbors.

And the rebel flag's a symbol of hatred and white supremacy, lest we forget.

You are slipping Granite. What a passel of generalizations you just made!
You forgot bad teeth! They tend to have bad teeth too!:doh:

 

[Granite]

You are slipping Granite. What a passel of generalizations you just made!
You forgot bad teeth! They tend to have bad teeth too!:doh:

Everything I said's completely true.

Oh, and this is just a delight:

http://www.vocativ.com/usa/race/what-its-like-to-spend-a-week-at-confederate-summer-camp/

So let me ask: If any blacks showed up wanting to experience the Confederate south in all its glory--and most importantly, in all authenticity--how do you think they'd be treated?

 

[rexlunae]

Outlawing a flag in response to a mass shooting shows how insane liberals are. What meaningful change are you hoping it will achieve?

No one is trying to outlaw anything. Just saying that the state in which such violence occurs shouldn't fly the flag that inspires and encourages it. Morons can wave that filthy rag around all they like.

Now if the murderer were to be executed tomorrow with rocks, that might scare the hell out of someone else would could otherwise follow a similar path.

We don't do that in this country, because this isn't Pakistan. But we all get it. You think violence is the answer.

And redacting overbearing gun regulations would clear the way for innocent people to effectively protect themselves without risking penalty.

We already have the highest civilians gun ownership rates in the world, and this sort of thing happens several times a year. Something about it isn't working. It's almost as if owning a lot of guns doesn't make us safer.

However, the left do not want answers; they want more rules.

Your answers don't work, and this incident itself proves that it doesn't work.

 

[Stripe]

The shooter didn't have a problem getting a gun legally, I don't suppose the victims would have had much trouble. They may have even been gun owners but didn't think they would need them at a Bible study.

They were in a "gun-free zone." lain:

 

[fool]

They were in a "gun-free zone." lain:

But how is that possible, they were shot.
It's almost as if mass murderers don't obey signs.

 

[Stripe]

No one is trying to outlaw anything. Just saying that the state in which such violence occurs shouldn't fly the flag that inspires and encourages it.

:dizzy:

Do you read what you write?

We don't do that in this country, because this isn't Pakistan. But we all get it. You think violence is the answer.

They don't do justice right in Pakistan either. Unless you're a retard like Tet, who thinks terrorists are executing justice.

And that is the answer: Justice. We know you hate it.

We already have the highest civilians gun ownership rates in the world.

And with the prevalence of weapons comes a bevy of regulations, which keeps law-abiding people nervous about carrying.

Your policies set up a situation in which criminals are given the most opportunity and invitation to act on their evil intentions.

and this sort of thing happens several times a year. Something about it isn't working. It's almost as if owning a lot of guns doesn't make us safer.Your answers don't work, and this incident itself proves that it doesn't work.

I see. So increasing instances of mass shootings under your system of gun regulation and no justice makes my ideas wrong. You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

 

[rainee]

I'm saying that southerners tend to be poorer, fatter, more violent, and more prone to illiteracy and illegitimate births than their northern neighbors.

And the rebel flag's a symbol of hatred and white supremacy, lest we forget.

Well I'm saying I misspelled wave with waive up above in my post, but you - you have more problems showing than I can list.

 

[Sancocho]

I have seen valid comparisons on this thread of the Confederate flag to the Nazi for the obvious similarities between oppressing and even killing another human being.

I pointed out that a similar comparison can easily be done between the aforementioned and child sacrifice and there is nary a response, much less from Granite, the humanist champion of this thread.

 

[Granite]

I have seen valid comparisons on this thread of the Confederate flag to the Nazi for the obvious similarities between oppressing and even killing another human being.

I pointed out that a similar comparison can easily be done between the aforementioned and child sacrifice and there is nary a response, much less from Granite, the humanist champion of this thread.

Actually my response was something along the lines of "So you're a crazy person." I didn't see the need to repeat myself.

 

[Sancocho]

Actually my response was something along the lines of "So you're a crazy person." I didn't see the need to repeat myself.

A principled person addresses the argument based on it's own merits.

Science tells us a human being is created at the moment of conception and a unique DNA is formed which has become a backbone of criminal investigation.

Will you join me and point out the obvious ridiculous status quo that tells us killing a child is ok just as the same status quo in the South tells people it is ok to hate people for their physical appearance?