Sexual Orientation is not a Choice

[genuineoriginal]

If there's no such thing as heterosexuality then there can be no such thing as homosexuality.

True.
Both terms were made up in order to promote acceptance of same gender sex.

 

[CabinetMaker]

What the world understands as "sexual orientation" is a lie created to excuse a small percentage of people for their sexual perversions.

Its not an excuse for anything, it is a descriptive term used to facilitate conversation.

Consider: I am heterosexual. That is my sexual orientation. Does that make it okay for me to have sex with any woman I want?

 

[genuineoriginal]

I've heard that too. This is far beyond that. The stories I have read indicate that the child is not doing it out of spite towards their parent. What makes them choose something that they know is wrong before God?

Many children commit adultery, but are not doing it out of spite towards their parents.

 

[CabinetMaker]

Many children commit adultery, but are not doing it out of spite towards their parents.

Are people who commit adultery acting in accordance with their sexual orientation?

 

[genuineoriginal]

I am just stating flat out that I know I didn't choose to be attracted to the opposite sex. I can remember as far back as when I was five thinking little boys at school or at Sunday school were cute.

Have your preferences changed to someone older than the boys you thought were cute when you were five?

 

[glassjester]

Are people who commit adultery acting in accordance with their sexual orientation?

No. Because there is no orientation. There is only the choice of sexual partner. There are moral choices and immoral choices.

That would be an example of an immoral choice.

 

[genuineoriginal]

Good and righteous people don't refer to minorities as 'perverts'

Then it is a good thing we are talking about homosexuals instead of minorities.

 

[genuineoriginal]

Get over yourself! Some things are hard wired and cannot be changed.

Sexual preferences are not hard wired and can be changed.

 

[CabinetMaker]

No. Because there is no orientation. There is only the choice of sexual partner. There are moral choices and immoral choices.

That would be an example of an immoral choice.

As I have already rejected your attempt to redefine terms, your reply is meaningless.

 

[StanJ]

Get over yourself! Some things are hard wired and cannot be changed. However, behavior can be controlled.

The ONLY thing hard wired is our carnal nature, which Jesus CAN change if we let Him. That includes ALL things.

 

[CabinetMaker]

Sexual preferences are not hard wired and can be changed.

They can be suppressed for a while, but they cannot be changed.

 

[HisServant]

Was the problem because the physical traits of your partner did not match your preferred physical traits in a sexual partner?

I married someone that only viewed me as a meal ticket to have the family she wanted and raise the kids the way she wanted.

After she got pregnant with our first child... i was put in my place and only my pay check mattered. I was not allowed to teach and/or discipline the kids, not allowed to manage our money under the threat of her leaving and her never allowing me to see the child again.

Some women/people are just plain evil... I was the victim of a masterful con job.

To this day, my divorce is the only divorce the christian law firm I used has ever taken part in.

 

[Lon]

1 Corinthians 7:8 "Sexuality" itself is a choice so 'preference' concerning it must necessarily be a choice...

 

[Sancocho]

The preferences you refer to are developed over time. I am speaking about the attractions we first feel when we enter puberty. Generally, that is the first point in our lives were we start to be attracted sexually to somebody. We are either attracted to the opposite sex or the same sex.

Tell us GO, when did you make a choice to be heterosexual. Or was it something that always just knew?

Actually, science paints a different picture. Sexual attraction can change on it's own over time and it generally does toward OSA. The claim that "once gay, always gay" is a myth propagated by the gay lobby. There are plenty of studies that demonstrate this.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I have always been attracted to men...one man in particular. I was married to him for almost 53 years and we had five children together.
In my wildest dreams I cannot imagine a sexual attraction to another woman.

Good post Bybee

 

[CabinetMaker]

Actually, science paints a different picture. Sexual attraction can change on it's own over time and it generally does toward OSA. The claim that "once gay, always gay" is a myth propagated by the gay lobby. There are plenty of studies that demonstrate this.

That's all fine and dandy but does absolutely nothing to address orientation at puberty.

 

[glassjester]

They can be suppressed for a while, but they cannot be changed.

But...

There is what we are born with and there is what we learn to accept as we go through life.

So a heterosexual person and a homosexual person could be influenced to "accept" bisexuality?

Some could, most probably wouldn't.

yet possible for an adult to change their orientation?

Anything is possible. It is possible to change an adult but it is not highly probable that you will.

 

[genuineoriginal]

The preferences you refer to are developed over time. I am speaking about the attractions we first feel when we enter puberty. Generally, that is the first point in our lives were we start to be attracted sexually to somebody.

Those first sexual attractions also developed over time, which is why they appear to bloom as fully-developed attractions at puberty. A person's first sexual attractions are towards people the physical traits similar to people they knew when they were growing up because of the emotional (non-sexual) feelings they had towards the people they knew with those physical traits.

We are either attracted to the opposite sex or the same sex.

False dichotomy.

Tell us GO, when did you make a choice to be heterosexual. Or was it something that always just knew?

Neither.

You know, you will not get far in a debate if you can only think in terms of a false dichotomy.

 

[glassjester]

Those first sexual attractions also developed over time

This seems to be the part people leave out.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

They can be suppressed for a while, but they cannot be changed.

The Bible looks at Homosexuality as a sin of the flesh. Therefore, it
is a choice. Lying is a choice, murder is a choice, stealing is a choice,
coveting is a choice, etc.