Satan, Inc (TOL's heretic's list)
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freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Discover truth for yourself.............
Discover truth for yourself.............
That's why the divine 'thought-adjuster' abides within the mind helping to direct it
My emphasis earlier was on the 'etymology' of the word 'heresy' from Greek haíresis, literally, act of choosing, derivative of haireîn to choose.
Its all in the choosing
In the realm of duality, or relativity...there is the appearing of 'choice',...but there is realm wholly beyond choice, when it comes to Absolutely Reality itself,...that reality essentially IS,...there is no 'choice' about it. - everything else we entertain in 'theology' is an intellectual construct.
pj
Discover truth for yourself.............
mustint not tink for ones self,
must be mindless drone marching off to the factory...
That's why the divine 'thought-adjuster' abides within the mind helping to direct it
My emphasis earlier was on the 'etymology' of the word 'heresy' from Greek haíresis, literally, act of choosing, derivative of haireîn to choose.
Its all in the choosing
In the realm of duality, or relativity...there is the appearing of 'choice',...but there is realm wholly beyond choice, when it comes to Absolutely Reality itself,...that reality essentially IS,...there is no 'choice' about it. - everything else we entertain in 'theology' is an intellectual construct.
pj
IMJerusha
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And when you judge when God gave that authority to Yeshua alone, what are you doing? You can not declare Brothers and Sisters "wicked" simply because you don't agree with their doctrine. There is enough Scripture to validate the doctrine of the Trinity. Using your perspective, Meshak, I could declare you wicked because you worship on Sunday instead of the Sabbath or because you don't face the east three times a day to pray or because you weren't a submissive wife. You're always complaining about Christians who water down Yeshua's teaching. What was/is the faith of Yeshua? It's the faith that the God of Israel established. Yeshua didn't rest on Sunday. He didn't even call the day Sunday. You've chosen not to accept the doctrine of the Trinity. Well, that's your choice but it doesn't make those who do accept the doctrine wicked people nor does it make Trinitarian churches wicked. The constant finger of guilt you choose to point at people is divisive and even destructive to the Body. There's enough sin wrapped up in that behavior alone to last you a lifetime and life is short. Yeshua said we are to look to our own behaviors before we point to others. There is no way you've got your act sin free so perhaps you should think about that teaching of Yeshua's?
So it is ok for you to judge me as judgmental just because I don't serve Jesus the way you do?
Sabbaths, where is that Malaysian jet you claim to possess?
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
the person of 'Jesus'.......
the person of 'Jesus'.......
What ideas, concepts and principles we 'serve'....is important to note, but we have to question our own views continually in the light, to see if they are 'in accord' with such, if we are truly representing or mis-representing them.
As far as what Jesus actually taught, there is question even among scholars as to what are his true words recorded in the gospels (or in non-canonical works)...as some things are 'contradictory'. If we would uphold some 'teaching' attributed to Jesus, we'd have to thoroughly inspect it weighing it with other words attributed to him, and in some cases there isn't enough 'information' to determine one way or another. The entire spectrum of Christianity and other branches of 'Christ-followers' (not assuming the traditional name or title of 'Christian') hold to different ideas about who Jesus is, let alone if he fulfilled the Jewish requirements of 'Messiahship', or is in another sense some kind of cosmic god-man or arch-angel sent by 'God', or a more liberal 'Christ-figure' of a 'new age'.
pj
the person of 'Jesus'.......
What ideas, concepts and principles we 'serve'....is important to note, but we have to question our own views continually in the light, to see if they are 'in accord' with such, if we are truly representing or mis-representing them.
As far as what Jesus actually taught, there is question even among scholars as to what are his true words recorded in the gospels (or in non-canonical works)...as some things are 'contradictory'. If we would uphold some 'teaching' attributed to Jesus, we'd have to thoroughly inspect it weighing it with other words attributed to him, and in some cases there isn't enough 'information' to determine one way or another. The entire spectrum of Christianity and other branches of 'Christ-followers' (not assuming the traditional name or title of 'Christian') hold to different ideas about who Jesus is, let alone if he fulfilled the Jewish requirements of 'Messiahship', or is in another sense some kind of cosmic god-man or arch-angel sent by 'God', or a more liberal 'Christ-figure' of a 'new age'.
pj
Sabbaths, has claimed that, he is the anti-Christ, and has
meetings with alien beings in a park! Besides holding that
jet everyone is looking for!
meetings with alien beings in a park! Besides holding that
jet everyone is looking for!
StabbyTabby
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If more Christians were truly like Jesus, that would be pretty cool. I actually kinda like Jesus. It's his followers who are a real turnoff.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Whoever wrote Hebrews......
Whoever wrote Hebrews......
I'd say the case is still pretty 'open'. The NT in itself is rather a complication of many themes, so what you have above is the opinion of the author, as it correlates to some of the Pauline letters. You have to take the authors statements as being 'true' (in some sense) by faith. Then you have to see what that 'faith' actually does for you, if anything.
pj
Whoever wrote Hebrews......
I'd say the case is still pretty 'open'. The NT in itself is rather a complication of many themes, so what you have above is the opinion of the author, as it correlates to some of the Pauline letters. You have to take the authors statements as being 'true' (in some sense) by faith. Then you have to see what that 'faith' actually does for you, if anything.
pj
Have you nothing but "baloney" to offer?
That's what Gandhi said! Only, he was more articulate!
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
freedom from density.......
freedom from density.......
That such went over your head might answer your question
pj
freedom from density.......
That such went over your head might answer your question
pj
Its the Christians flesh.
Most think they are entirely sanctified at conversion but it is obvious that few ever are after it.
If you become a Christian then all of the bad things of the flesh have to dealt with after conversion, but most run away from it.
LA
It is because they don't honor Jesus' teachings. Mainstreamers ostracize everyone who strive to be faithful and obedient to Jesus by saying your works cannot save you..
Jesus commands His followers to be faithful to His teachings.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
rock tumblers.............
rock tumblers.............
The 'surface gloss' of the whole "faith vs. works" scenario is a bit 'lack-luster', since both factors are included in the acting out of religious life and DOING the will of God. As noted earlier however,...there may be a 'debate' of what Jesus really taught, and if anyone is even obligated to observe such.
pj
rock tumblers.............
The 'surface gloss' of the whole "faith vs. works" scenario is a bit 'lack-luster', since both factors are included in the acting out of religious life and DOING the will of God. As noted earlier however,...there may be a 'debate' of what Jesus really taught, and if anyone is even obligated to observe such.
pj
Jesus' messages are clear and simple: He commands His followers to obey His teachings.
No no no dude. You're over complicatin'
You need free love
Christ offers that
I wish I could help u but u are over evaluating ur understanding of the bible. It starts with the gospel. If u reject that, u can't read the bible because ur blinded by ur flesh.
I'm here for u bro
StabbyTabby
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