No, because that still leaves the invalid comparison to things never shown to ever be ok in any sense whatever and your reasoning of divorcing to be with other people, thats already adultery.
Reformed Islam
- Thread starter CherubRam
- Start date
No, because that still leaves the invalid comparison to things never shown to ever be ok in any sense whatever and your reasoning of divorcing to be with other people, thats already adultery.
Any interpretation of the holy is a reformation, for each person has to find a God that makes sense to them.
Here on earth God’s work must truly be our own..
***Luther did not like the church’s selling of indulgences--then came Reformation.
***Jesus wanted to push the envelope on normative Judaism--Reformation.
***Christians began to take another look at slavery--Reformation.
***The nonviolent faith became the faith of the Holy Roman Empire and the Caesars--Reformation.
Reformation means change.
Each cultural expression of humankind’s relationship with God has to first be mediated through a particular time, place and society and second has to be flexible and nimble enough to deal with the inevitable changes that happen every day.
God has built in “reformation” within the very structure of reality.
Here on earth God’s work must truly be our own..
***Luther did not like the church’s selling of indulgences--then came Reformation.
***Jesus wanted to push the envelope on normative Judaism--Reformation.
***Christians began to take another look at slavery--Reformation.
***The nonviolent faith became the faith of the Holy Roman Empire and the Caesars--Reformation.
Reformation means change.
Each cultural expression of humankind’s relationship with God has to first be mediated through a particular time, place and society and second has to be flexible and nimble enough to deal with the inevitable changes that happen every day.
God has built in “reformation” within the very structure of reality.
Greg Jennings
New member
Is divorce not stemming from adultery ever okay?
And since you seem to have so much trouble with this, I'll make it simpler: it's cherry-picking to want to punish homosexuals but not adulterers, is it not?
Who is advocating that adultery is ok? Adultery used to be a crime also, liberals made that no longer the case.
Practicing Homos are also committing adultery since its not possible to be married before God, since marriage is man and woman.
There is no argument that makes gay sex ok, just like there is no argument that makes adultery ok.
Greg Jennings
New member
Okay, we're making progress here.
Would you then agree it is cherry-picking for someone to condemn homosexuals while not speaking out on adultery?
No, adulterers aren't standing up and demanding the right to be seen as not sinful or to have their lifestyle celebrated by others.
Most rational sane people already agree that adultery is wrong.
Greg Jennings
New member
Nobody is asking you to celebrate gay lifestyle. They want to be tolerated, not your celebration. They could care less about what you think as long as you don't get in the way of their personal freedom.
Anyway, those who divorce without their spouse cheating on them (which you consider adultery) absolutely demand that their lifestyle be accepted. So you are incorrect there
mike_j_beaupre
New member
Yes, I am aware. Thank you. But you're assuming I'm a part of some specify religious sect. Assumptions are always wrong. Because you presume the unknown
Thank you. That was my point.
I only assumed that because you self-identify as a Christian you were aware--or should be--of the violence and apocalyptic divine “ethnic cleansing” that is a part of our faith as well.
Assumptions aren’t ALWAYS wrong. If they were, our scientific world today would collapse.
I am totally accountable for my all-too-human propensity to “assume the unknown” every day of my life. And I try to be accountable for all of my gross misunderstandings while doing so.
mike_j_beaupre
New member
There were no other options when I signed for what I believe in, I had to pick something.
If others tell us something we make assumptions, and if they don't tell us something we make assumptions to fulfill our need to know and to replace the need to communicate. Even if we hear something and we don't understand we make assumptions about what it means and then believe the assumptions. We make all sorts of assumptions because we don't have the courage to ask questions.
Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom
If others tell us something we make assumptions, and if they don't tell us something we make assumptions to fulfill our need to know and to replace the need to communicate. Even if we hear something and we don't understand we make assumptions about what it means and then believe the assumptions. We make all sorts of assumptions because we don't have the courage to ask questions.
Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom
Question Everything
mike_j_beaupre
New member
mike_j_beaupre
New member
Exactly Patrick. Question it. Question why people still argue that Islam is a peaceful religion.
Interplanner
Well-known member
The passage refers to the cataclysm of the 1st century destruction of Jerusalem. The rebellious zealots of Judaism and lots of innocents perished in the zealot revolt.
There are several figures of speech in the passage in any case. The numbers probably are and the passage is indicating the wrath of Christ toward this kind of Judaism for not becoming the missionaries he wanted them to be.
It is not as unqualified as you seem to think it is.
mike_j_beaupre
New member
So what's your point? Christ said to kill people as Muhammad did? So it's ok that Islam is like that because Christ said something along the same signs.
mike_j_beaupre
New member
Lines
CherubRam
New member
A Muslim claims that White Christian males commit most terrorist acts. http://www.vox.com/2015/11/21/9774766/muslims-condemn-terrorism
I looked into it, and the statements is not true at all.
CherubRam
New member
So where is this scriptures?
Interplanner
Well-known member
If you are referring to my reference to the Jewish Revolt of the 1st century, the killing was done by the 10th legion of the Roman army. Christ said it would happen in Mt 24, Mk 13, Lk 19, 21, if Israel persisted in the zealot direction instead of in the Christian mission. It seems rather obvious that continuing to agitate a military power 1000x your size is a bad idea.
Christ does not give that kind of command to his people, and even in ancient Israel under Joshua it was only commanded (never mind what later kings thought up to do) about one child-sacrificing sect in Canaan.
There is of course a day of judgement coming upon all mankind at the end of time but it is not practiced or executed by people in this life.