Reconciled unto God by Who? By What?

Cruciform

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Robert Pate said:
This is what you think that John 3:16 is saying. God so loved the world that he gave us the Catholic Church, that whosoever believes in the Catholic Church should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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Here you're either ignorant or simply lying (Prov. 19:5). Which is it? :think:

Back to Post #78.
 
heir

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Nanja said:
You are void of Truth. It's hidden from you 2 Cor. 4:3-4 KJV.

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Only those who have heard the glorious gospel of Christ and believe not are blinded (IOW, they heard it and rejected it). When did you trust the Lord believing it after hearing it or believed not and were blinded because of your believing not?
 
beloved57

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heir said:
Only those who have heard the glorious gospel of Christ and believe not are blinded (IOW, they heard it and rejected it). When did you trust the Lord believing it after hearing it or believed not and were blinded because of your believing not?
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You have heard the Gospel and reject it, it is TULIP, Calvinism!
 
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Robert Pate

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beloved57 said:
Doesn't matter, Tulip is the Gospel and you don't believe it, that puts you In unbelief!
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TULIP will put you in hell.

The "L" in Tulip is what will cook your goose.

No one will be saved that does not believe that Jesus is Lord.

The "L" in Tulip means that Jesus did NOT defeat sin, death and the devil, therefore Jesus is NOT Lord.
 
beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
TULIP will put you in hell.

The "L" in Tulip is what will cook your goose.

No one will be saved that does not believe that Jesus is Lord.

The "L" in Tulip means that Jesus did NOT defeat sin, death and the devil, therefore Jesus is NOT Lord.
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TULIP is the Gospel of Gods Grace in Christ!
 
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Robert Pate

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Cruciform said:
What the Head (Christ) is to Jesus, the Body (Church) is to Jesus.

Also, you "forgot" to answer the question in Post #83 above.
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Its true, your Catholic church is void of what Christ has done to justify the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and to reconcile the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19. There is no Gospel in the Catholic church.

What you do with Christ in your church is you leave him on the cross and drink his blood. Why don't you have a statue of him setting on his throne as "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords?" Revelation 19:16.
 
beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
Its true, your Catholic church is void of what Christ has done to justify the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and to reconcile the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19. There is no Gospel in the Catholic church.

What you do with Christ in your church is you leave him on the cross and drink his blood. Why don't you have a statue of him setting on his throne as "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords?" Revelation 19:16.
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You don't believe or understand those verses of scripture, you teach that millions for whom Christ died shall wind up in hell lost in their sins in unbelief!
 
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beloved57 said:
You don't believe or understand those verses of scripture, you teach that millions for whom Christ died shall wind up in hell lost in their sins in unbelief!
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Only because like you, they rejected God's great free gift of salvation provided by Jesus Christ, Ephesians 2:8.
 
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Robert Pate said:
Paul said that we have been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ.

"All things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ" 2 Corinthians 5:18.

If we have been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ then why do you need the Catholic church or Calvinism or any religion?

Paul said, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ" 1 Timothy 2:5.

Nothing about a Catholic church or a Calvinist religion or any religion being a mediator.

Can it be that Catholics and Calvinist have made their religion their Jesus? YESJust like the Jews made the Torah their Jesus. One of the commandments says..."Thou shalt not have any God's before me". Is it Jesus Christ plus something? Or is it Jesus Christ plus nothing?

If we were reconciled unto God by Jesus and Jesus Christ is the only mediator between man and God, then where does religion fit into this?

Ephesians 1:6 says that we have been made acceptable in the beloved, who is Jesus Christ. Jesus makes us acceptable to God by his doing and his dying. He is our justifier, Romans 3:26. Reconciler, 2 Corinthians 5:18 and our mediator, 1 Timothy 2:5.

If this is true then why do you need that religion?
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"Fathers and mothers" take care of the sons, until they are of a mature age, then they LEAVE FATHER AND MOTHER, and cleave unto their wife (become one with the true body). To be absent from the body (THE DEAD ONE) is to be present with the Lord, and His body which is born of the SPIRIT not the flesh.

A baby that doesn't come out of the COVERING of the womb is STILLBORN.

Since I don't want to be guilty of necrophilia, I haven't joined myself to a "dead body" for 30 years now. Peace
 
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RBBI said:
"Fathers and mothers" take care of the sons, until they are of a mature age, then they LEAVE FATHER AND MOTHER, and cleave unto their wife (become one with the true body). To be absent from the body (THE DEAD ONE) is to be present with the Lord, and His body which is born of the SPIRIT not the flesh.

A baby that doesn't come out of the COVERING of the womb is STILLBORN.

Since I don't want to be guilty of necrophilia, I haven't joined myself to a "dead body" for 30 years now. Peace
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Glad to hear that you are persevering.

Once sealed with the Holy Spirit, always sealed with the Holy Spirit.
 
beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
Only because like you, they rejected God's great free gift of salvation provided by Jesus Christ, Ephesians 2:8.
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Those Christ lived and died for are reconciled into Gods Favor while they are enemies and unbelievers and rejecting God Rom 5:10 and they shall be saved additionally by His life!
 
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