Real Science Radio: The Search for Noah's Ark

[alwight]

Why do you limit G-d's ability to do anything? :idunno:

Just curious.

So the only explanation is to suppose the miraculous perhaps?
However most YECs imo do seem to think that natural physics can and does account for all life today since the supposed flood, while floods are of course physical natural events. Why then didn't God simply "magic" everything as He wanted it and not worry at all about natural physics?
But yes assuming the miraculous is an explanation perhaps but one which is also not really any kind of explanation at all, in natural physics anyway.

 

[Daedalean's_Sun]

Why do you limit G-d's ability to do anything? :idunno:

Just curious.

It would be like supposing that God created Australia yesterday. What stops him from doing that?


Why would you suppose an astonishingly implausible and unlikely explanation that is not only unsupported by empirical evidence and scripture, but has a great deal of evidence against it. Based on what other criteria would assert it's truth?

 

[Letsargue]

So the only explanation is to suppose the miraculous perhaps?
However most YECs imo do seem to think that natural physics can and does account for all life today since the supposed flood, while floods are of course physical natural events. Why then didn't God simply "magic" everything as He wanted it and not worry at all about natural physics?
But yes assuming the miraculous is an explanation perhaps but one which is also not really any kind of explanation at all, in natural physics anyway.

Because; - Sense the beginning; - to the fall of Israel and the Temple, God was establishing Spiritual Law by causing carnal events. They all stopped when God had all Laws established for the Spiritual. That’s when He said, ( “It is Finished” )!! - There Must be both, the Carnal and the Spiritual of all existence!! – You’ve heard: “The Heavens Declare the Glory of God”, -- that's the Carnal of God!!

Paul – 072313

 

[Daedalean's_Sun]

(( God Said It ))!!! Not who you want to have said it!!!

Paul -- 072313

Really? Hyper-evolution is in the Bible? I must have missed it. It's probably in the same chapter that states all the animals aboard were juveniles and didn't require a great deal of food, and whatever other claim you care to make.


It's strange how so many creationists fervently deny evolution but have absolutely no problem asserting hyper-evolution.

 

[Daedalean's_Sun]

What makes you think they were in the same water?

Because the only thing now that prevents the homogenization of aqueous salt content are physical land barriers.

And do you really think such a thing is beyond the God who brought all the animals to Noah.

Not without resorting to silly ad hoc explanations, such as an invisible magic barrier or something of the sort.

And before you argue that the Bible doesn't say that, it does say He brought them all to Adam so Adam could name them; so we know it is not beyond Him and logic dictates that is what He did with Noah.

I suppose the three-toed tree sloths of south America swam across the atlantic ocean?

Bump for answers.

 

[alwight]

Because; - Sense the beginning; - to the fall of Israel and the Temple, God was establishing Spiritual Law by causing carnal events. They all stopped when God had all Laws established for the Spiritual. That’s when He said, ( “It is Finished” )!! - There Must be both, the Carnal and the Spiritual of all existence!! – You’ve heard: “The Heavens Declare the Glory of God”, -- that's the Carnal of God!!

Paul – 072313

 

[Letsargue]

Is that suppose to be some kind of, ------ What? ----- What there do I respond to?? – I don’t get it!! – Is that ALLL you have?? – Or are you another one of those (((( GENIUSES ))))?????!!!!!!

Paul – 072413

 

[gcthomas]

Doesn't take a genius to post a cartoon joke, Letsargue.

Interesting that you don't get the joke!

 

[Letsargue]

Really? Hyper-evolution is in the Bible? I must have missed it. It's probably in the same chapter that states all the animals aboard were juveniles and didn't require a great deal of food, and whatever other claim you care to make.


It's strange how so many creationists fervently deny evolution but have absolutely no problem asserting hyper-evolution.

"Hyper", "Hyper Evolution"??? -- You Mean (((( Breeding )))) Don't you genius??? -- Changes in breeds, is (( Due to Breeding )), it's the Breeding, and the conditions at the time of (( BREEDINGGGGGG!!!! )). --- Read the BOOK!!!!

Paul -- 072413

 

[Letsargue]

Doesn't take a genius to post a cartoon joke, Letsargue.

Interesting that you don't get the joke!

Are we suppose to be (( Jokers )) now!!! - I'm not a JOKER!! -- You all are!!! -- (( Get it )) ~ha ~ha ~ha ~haaaa

Paul -- 072413

 

[Daedalean's_Sun]

"Hyper", "Hyper Evolution"??? -- You Mean (((( Breeding )))) Don't you genius??? -- Changes in breeds, is (( Due to Breeding )), it's the Breeding, and the conditions at the time of (( BREEDINGGGGGG!!!! )). --- Read the BOOK!!!!

Paul -- 072413

No.

Breeding is the cause.
Speciation is the effect.
Evolution is the process.

(This is actually a simplification, but bear with me...)

You seem to believe that selective breeding can lead hyper-evolution, but standard evolution...that's too farfetched. what!? :AMR::doh:

 

[Letsargue]

No.

Breeding is the cause.
Speciation is the effect.
Evolution is the process.

(This is actually a simplification, but bear with me...)

You seem to believe that selective breeding can lead hyper-evolution, but standard evolution...that's too farfetched. what!? :AMR::doh:

(( Breeding )) is “Breeding”, ( Then the baby )!! – What caused the baby, Genius; the wind and rain, or something else that did not do the “Breading”???

Paul – 072413

 

[Daedalean's_Sun]

(( Breeding )) is “Breeding”, ( Then the baby )!! – What caused the baby, Genius; the wind and rain, or something else that did not do the “Breading”???

Paul – 072413

Huh? :AMR:

 

[Letsargue]

Breeding different Breeds:

Breeding different Breeds:

One can’t respond to the likes of what is going on here without having to over respond!! – Noah’s Ark had to have very young creatures, still the creatures commanded by God!! – As for the, kinda off topic subject of “Breeding”; - I feel I should address this totally mistaken Process of bringing forth a creature. God could have done anything in preparation of the Flood; like combining male and female into one!! – NO?????

( “Breeding” ): -- The man does all he can do in this process in the beginning of it; then the female, or the ( “Woman” ), finishes the whole Process of ( “Breeding” ) during the full carrying of the unborn child. – The Born Child has been ( Bred ), for nine months. --- How on earth have you all missed that?????? – The “La’dy”, --- the woman who is La’den with child grows the creature for nine months. - It’s her feeding, and her health and fitness, that fully (( Produces, or Finishes )) the “Breeding” of the new born, the New Creature at Birth; it has been ( “Bred” ). – Every child, or Person is a Different “Breed”!! – ( “Every child, - or Person, is a “Different Breed” )!!! - That’s part of the reason for Jesus Christ!! – Read the BOOK Guys!!!! ----- How is it that you call yourselves Christians, and you’re SOO unlearned in anything of God??

The carnal world brought about every creature, a different creature or Breed. – There were different Kinds of Breeds, but every creature is ( of ) a different “Breeding”; bringing forth the total different Breeds every time. Thus You and your Brother are “Different, Too different to fit into God’s Plan; - Thus, -- Jesus Christ. – God plants the seed; - the same Seed from the very same source; from GOD, the Father. - In the NEW Heaven and New Earth ), there can be no difference in the Child of God; - they are all ONE, and one alike, being Like the Father and Mother. One Creature at Birth; -- you all must say; the New Birth, or Born again. --- When, or where does this New Birth take “( PLACE )”??? --- At the “Place” Prepared, and when one is Born Again, - THEN; - and Only THEN, is he a NEW Creature, not before the Birth. This Mother brings the Child forth a New Breed, not like the Breeds before, of the fools of Old!!! ---- ((( Read the BOOK )))!!! – One “Breed” of the New Man!!

This thing is so simple; if you were guided by God, you would have seen it, but NO!! – You’re too smart!!! – If someone is guided by the Holy Ghost, you spit on them, as you did Jesus before and during the Cross.

Look at it!! – God took the woman out of the Man / Adam, the first Man Adam. And at the end, Through Jesus the Second Man Adam. God put the Woman BACK ( into ) the Man, the Third Man Adam, and brought Him Back into the New Garden of God, and they became One Flesh, not just the Parable of it.----- Now How Simple Is That??? – Just Read it!!! – Well NO!! You’re too Smart to take God’s Word for it!!!

Paul – 072413

 

[Lordkalvan]

Good grief.

 

[gcthomas]

Good grief...

.. the comedian's a bear!

 

[alwight]

Is that suppose to be some kind of, ------ What? ----- What there do I respond to?? – I don’t get it!! – Is that ALLL you have?? – Or are you another one of those (((( GENIUSES ))))?????!!!!!!

Paul – 072413

I don't think I wanted a response, your responses tend to be headache inducing just to look at never mind reading them.

 

[Letsargue]

One can’t respond to the likes of what is going on here without having to over respond!! – Noah’s Ark had to have very young creatures, still the creatures commanded by God!! – As for the, kinda off topic subject of “Breeding”; - I feel I should address this totally mistaken Process of bringing forth a creature. God could have done anything in preparation of the Flood; like combining male and female into one!! – NO?????

( “Breeding” ): -- The man does all he can do in this process in the beginning of it; then the female, or the ( “Woman” ), finishes the whole Process of ( “Breeding” ) during the full carrying of the unborn child. – The Born Child has been ( Bred ), for nine months. --- How on earth have you all missed that?????? – The “La’dy”, --- the woman who is La’den with child grows the creature for nine months. - It’s her feeding, and her health and fitness, that fully (( Produces, or Finishes )) the “Breeding” of the new born, the New Creature at Birth; it has been ( “Bred” ). – Every child, or Person is a Different “Breed”!! – ( “Every child, - or Person, is a “Different Breed” )!!! - That’s part of the reason for Jesus Christ!! – Read the BOOK Guys!!!! ----- How is it that you call yourselves Christians, and you’re SOO unlearned in anything of God??

The carnal world brought about every creature, a different creature or Breed. – There were different Kinds of Breeds, but every creature is ( of ) a different “Breeding”; bringing forth the total different Breeds every time. Thus You and your Brother are “Different, Too different to fit into God’s Plan; - Thus, -- Jesus Christ. – God plants the seed; - the same Seed from the very same source; from GOD, the Father. - In the NEW Heaven and New Earth ), there can be no difference in the Child of God; - they are all ONE, and one alike, being Like the Father and Mother. One Creature at Birth; -- you all must say; the New Birth, or Born again. --- When, or where does this New Birth take “( PLACE )”??? --- At the “Place” Prepared, and when one is Born Again, - THEN; - and Only THEN, is he a NEW Creature, not before the Birth. This Mother brings the Child forth a New Breed, not like the Breeds before, of the fools of Old!!! ---- ((( Read the BOOK )))!!! – One “Breed” of the New Man!!

This thing is so simple; if you were guided by God, you would have seen it, but NO!! – You’re too smart!!! – If someone is guided by the Holy Ghost, you spit on them, as you did Jesus before and during the Cross.

Look at it!! – God took the woman out of the Man / Adam, the first Man Adam. And at the end, Through Jesus the Second Man Adam. God put the Woman BACK ( into ) the Man, the Third Man Adam, and brought Him Back into the New Garden of God, and they became One Flesh, not just the Parable of it.----- Now How Simple Is That??? – Just Read it!!! – Well NO!! You’re too Smart to take God’s Word for it!!!

Paul – 072413

(((( You can MOVE It ))))!!!!!!, - You can Spit on It, - You Can Reject It, - But; - ((( You Cannot Disprove (( IT )) to Anyone ))), but to Yourselves, in your Dark Minds. -- Yes!! Go ahead and Spit on The TRUTH / CHRIST!!! --- That's Who You Are!!! --- Injoy youselfs with your own "Breed" in the darkness; - because you'll be all by YOUSELF!! -- Have a GOOOOD NIGHT!!! --- ((( It was DARRRK ))) in the Ark!!!

Paul -- 072513

 

[Lordkalvan]

Bizarre.

Sill no evidence on the food requirements of the Ark animals or their juvenile status, though.

 

[Letsargue]

Bizarre.

Sill no evidence on the food requirements of the Ark animals or their juvenile status, though.

They didn't NEED It!!!!!

You’ve Given None For IT!!!!! – So What???!!!! – “D’-ARK” Was ( “DARK” ), there was NO “Light” in it; - not even the Light of Truth, and there IS No evidence that anything of God Was In "D’-Ark", ( Except ) that the dwellers were ALL At (( “REST” )), - Asleep!!!! -- Prove me Wrong Genius, not just run your mouth in HATE!!! - ( D'-ARK of the Covenant ) was "DARK" also, but it had the "Light of God" in IT!!!

Paul – 072513