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beloved57

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Election, the main stumblingblock of the Gospel !

Election, the main stumblingblock of the Gospel !

1 Cor 1:23

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

What does the word stumblingblock mean ? Its the greek word and means:


I.the movable stick or trigger of a trap, a trap stick

A.a trap, snare


B.any impediment placed in the way and causing one to stumble or fall, (a stumbling block, occasion of stumbling) i.e. a rock which is a cause of stumbling


C.fig. applied to Jesus Christ, whose person and career were so contrary to the expectations of the Jews concerning the Messiah, that they rejected him and by their obstinacy made shipwreck of their salvation



II.any person or thing by which one is (entrapped) drawn into error or sin

Its the Doctrine of Election, when preached in the Gospel, it causes men to stumble, to fall away !

Jesus when He preached the Doctrine it caused many to fall away Jn 6:64-66

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.This is Election !

66 From that time many of his disciples went back or departed, and walked no more with him.

Yes Vs 65 is about Election, being Chosen by the Father in the Son before the foundation Eph 1:4, thats what it takes to believe on and follow Jesus Christ !

When men heard that, they , once followers, departed from Him to follow Him no more ! The saying was an offence to them !

Same thing is observed in Jesus very first sermon in Lk 4:21-29

21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

22 And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph's son?

23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

24 And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.Election

27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.Election !

28 And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,

29 And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.

When they heard the things pertaining to the discrminating Election of God, it filled them with wrath ! Why ? Because it was a Stumblingblock to the jews !

And so it is to this very day, this Gospel Truth is a stumblingblock to false religion !
 

Nanja

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1 Cor 1:23

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

What does the word stumblingblock mean ? Its the greek word and means:




Its the Doctrine of Election, when preached in the Gospel, it causes men to stumble, to fall away !

Jesus when He preached the Doctrine it caused many to fall away Jn 6:64-66

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.This is Election !

66 From that time many of his disciples went back or departed, and walked no more with him.

Yes Vs 65 is about Election, being Chosen by the Father in the Son before the foundation Eph 1:4, thats what it takes to believe on and follow Jesus Christ !

When men heard that, they , once followers, departed from Him to follow Him no more ! The saying was an offence to them !

Same thing is observed in Jesus very first sermon in Lk 4:21-29



When they heard the things pertaining to the discrminating Election of God, it filled them with wrath ! Why ? Because it was a Stumblingblock to the jews !

And so it is to this very day, this Gospel Truth is a stumblingblock to false religion !


So true! The Doctrine of Election is truly the biggest impediment causing many to stumble at the Truth.

Because their minds are blinded to the Truth 2 Cor 4:4, they are drawn to follow false gospels,
which incorporate man's imaginary freewill choice to receive salvation for themselves;
performing works they do to establish their own righteousness Is. 64:6.

Such religion is antichrist.

It's adherents are full of fleshly pride and haughtiness. They actually hate the True God of the Bible
and blaspheme Him continually: preaching a false god of their own understanding who loves and
provided salvation for all men without exception, but yet not all will become saved because they
failed to respond, accept him, call on him, etc.; men worshiping themselves!



But the True God of the Bible already had chosen a Bride in His Son, Christ Jesus,
before the foundation of the world
Eph. 1:4-11; 2 Tim. 1:9, before He ever Created anything;
the Lamb Slain from the foundation to be their Head and Surety
.

That Divine Supernatural Intervention of God's Grace guarantees their Eternal Life,
Living with Him forever in the New Heaven and the New Earth!


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beloved57

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So true! The Doctrine of Election is truly the biggest impediment causing many to stumble at the Truth.

Because their minds are blinded to the Truth 2 Cor 4:4, they are drawn to follow false gospels,
which incorporate man's imaginary freewill choice to receive salvation for themselves;
performing works they do to establish their own righteousness Is. 64:6.

Such religion is antichrist.

It's adherents are full of fleshly pride and haughtiness. They actually hate the True God of the Bible
and blaspheme Him continually: preaching a false god of their own understanding who loves and
provided salvation for all men without exception, but yet not all will become saved because they
failed to respond, accept him, call on him, etc.; men worshiping themselves!



But the True God of the Bible already had chosen a Bride in His Son, Christ Jesus,
before the foundation of the world
Eph. 1:4-11; 2 Tim. 1:9, before He ever Created anything;
the Lamb Slain from the foundation to be their Head and Surety
.

That Divine Supernatural Intervention of God's Grace guarantees their Eternal Life,
Living with Him forever in the New Heaven and the New Earth!


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Amen to all you stated !
 

beloved57

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The Gospel brings forth fruit !

The Gospel brings forth fruit !

Col 1:5-6

5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;

6 Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:

The Gospel brings forth fruit unto God, but thats when its being the Power of God, by the power of the Holy Spirit causing some to believe it Rom 1:16

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

The word power here dynamis denotes efficacy:

the ability to produce desired results; effectiveness. Results or fruit !

Jesus told His Disciples this while judas was gone Jn 15:16

16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit Col 1:6, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

The bringing forth of fruit is to make/beget believers of the Gospel !

Remember Jesus said Jn 17:20

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word=their fruit;

Those that believe through their word is their fruit. Paul said to some of the Corinthian Believers 1 Cor 3:5

5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

1 Cor 4:15

15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

James writes of this James 1:18

18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

The Gospel is the word of Truth !Eph 1:13

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

And it causes the regenerate to believe by the persuasive Power of the Holy Spirit. When the Gospel is preached to the regenerate, the good soil, it brings forth fruit Matt 13:23

23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

The Gospel brings forth spiritual life 2 Tim 1:10

10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
 

beloved57

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Identifying those who shall believe !

Identifying those who shall believe !

Jesus prayed for them that shall believe through their word Jn 17:20

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their [The Apostles] word;

This means through their Preaching of the Gospel, the Word of Truth Eph 1:13 !

Now who is it that shall believe their Gospel ? Its them who first have had the Word put into their Heart ! Paul when writing the Book of Romans made this statement as it pertained to some who had the Gospel sent to them in order to bring about their obedience to it Rom 10:8

8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Notice his words carefully:

The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart

Now why did he say that, that the word was in their heart ? Well Paul was a sent Minister of the New Covenant/ Testament 2 Cor 3:6

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

And Paul now knew of the New Covenant Promises to the People of God, whether jew or Gentile, which are here, God promised this Jer 31:33

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Heb 8:10

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

See where its stated that God will write His Law into their Hearts ? That Law is the word of the Gospel. The word Law does mean Doctrine and or Instruction, which could be understood of the Doctrines of the Gospel Rom 6:17

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

The Gospel has with it Spiritual Instruction that it effects, in that it converts the soul Ps 19:7

The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Cp 2 Tim 3:15

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

And those who according to the New Covenant Promise, have this word, law, Gospel written in their Hearts, they shall obey the Gospel, the Law, the Word, whenever it comes to them in the Power of the Holy Spirit, converting them to Faith in Christ Ezk 36:26-27

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

In which case the doing is submitting to Gospel Obedience unto Jesus Christ !
 

Gurucam

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~*~*~

If its 'gospel' its good news for all :)

Not that God has pre-ordained and chosen a special selection of souls to be 'disenfranchised' for all eternity.
pj

Freelight,

The KJV N.T. is good news. However it is of no use to one who does not discern that there are two distinctly different gospels in the KJV N.T. for two distinctly different types of people, on earth

I repeat the following and other things because, although my posts may be addressed to you, they are not meant for only you. I try to make each post as coherent and complete as possible at all times.

It does not matter what most everyone (who are called Christians) believe. Jesus confirmed that the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) of those called to Christianity will be misled and err and not be chosen. The very great majority will not have it right. Only the few, the chosen few, will have it right.

The KJV N.T. confirms that there are two approaches to God righteousness. These form the basis of two different gospels. I am aware that most people who are called Christians believe that there is only one gospel. Fact is, their belief contradicts clear revelations from the KJV N.T. And getting to truth is not a popularity contest. In fact, it about the beliefs of the few (i.e. the chosen few) and not at all about the very great majority. The two gospels are as follows:

1.) One is the Old Mosaic approach which is with the law. Jesus reaffirmed a very slightly modified version of this approach for use by the spiritually dead. This commission was rendered onto Peter.

2.) The other is righteousness of God without the law. This is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Since 2000 odd years ago, the Lord is that Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. This latter commission was rendered onto Paul. This approach is for the spiritually aware.
[size=+1]The fabric of this latter commission is 'milk' and 'solid food'.[/size]
Romans: 3 verse: 21 KJV NT.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
2 Corinthians: 3 verse: 17 KJV N.T.
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Galatians: 5 verse: 18 KJV N.T.
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

The Act: 13 verse: 39 KJV N.T.
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Those who 'believe' are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Since some 2000 odd years ago, this Spirit is Lord.

. . . And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty and justification to transgress the law and not get sin but instead be glorified by God. Of course this latter approach (i.e. # 2.) is said to spiritually aware people. Only they can follow Jesus in His Spirit, Son of God, format. Only these people are the body of Christ. They are under Paul's commission.

Those who are spiritually dead must follow the former approach (i.e. # 1.). This set of people, must esteem and uphold the law and canons etc, for their righteousness. These people cannot and do not comprise the body of Christ. These people are under Peter's commission.

This is the basis of the entire KJV N.T. One who looks at the KJV N.T. with this approach, will find no contradictions at all, between Jesus and Paul or between any revelations in the KJV N.T.

Also the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is not the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus is the Spirit of Intercession. Jesus, clad only in His Spirit body, intercedes between each human (according their individual spirits) and the Holy Spirit and come up with what each spiritually aware person must know, pray for, say and do, in real time, all the time. He that search his own heart/spirit comes to know what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for him or her to know, pray for, say and do.

What the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do as discerned through one's own heart or spirit, is a perfect amalgam of 1.) the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of one's own heart or spirit and 2.) the will of God which is the Holy Spirit.

Romans: 8 verses: 34 KJV N.T.
Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

The verses quoted above are only a few from the KJV N.T., which can and do absolutely and literally support the totality of this and other related posts done by me.

Fact is, the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) of those billion or so, called Christians are anchored on absolute foolishness and corruption. They are misinformed and misled by false prophets who came in Jesus' name. These false prophets are within the very core of their organizations, as their leader, priests and elders, etc.. Most of them have buried their relative, friend and their other charges irreversibly and irrecoverably. They are actively committed to (any which way) doing the same to every one else.

People are urged to wake up and smell the aroma of truth . . . . the fullness of time is at hand and this is the last chance to come onto truth, as confirmed by revelations in the KJV N.T..
 
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JonahofAkron

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Freelight,

The KJV N.T. is good news. However it is of no use to one who does not discern that there are two distinctly different gospels in the KJV N.T. for two distinctly different types of people, on earth

I repeat the following and other things because, although my posts may be addressed to you, they are not meant for only you. I try to make each post as coherent and complete as possible at all times.

It does not matter what most everyone (who are called Christians) believe. Jesus confirmed that the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) of those called to Christianity will be misled and err and not be chosen. The very great majority will not have it right. Only the few, the chosen few, will have it right.

The KJV N.T. confirms that there are two approaches to God righteousness. These form the basis of two different gospels. I am aware that most people who are called Christians believe that there is only one gospel. Fact is, their belief contradicts clear revelations from the KJV N.T. And getting to truth is not a popularity contest. In fact, it about the beliefs of the few (i.e. the chosen few) and not at all about the very great majority. The two gospels are as follows:

1.) One is the Old Mosaic approach which is with the law. Jesus reaffirmed a very slightly modified version of this approach for use by the spiritually dead. This commission was rendered onto Peter.

2.) The other is righteousness of God without the law. This is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Since 2000 odd years ago, the Lord is that Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. This latter commission was rendered onto Paul. This approach is for the spiritually aware.





Those who 'believe' are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Since some 2000 odd years ago, this Spirit is Lord.

. . . And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty and justification to transgress the law and not get sin but instead be glorified by God. Of course this latter approach (i.e. # 2.) is said to spiritually aware people. Only they can follow Jesus in His Spirit, Son of God, format. Only these people are the body of Christ. They are under Paul's commission.

Those who are spiritually dead must follow the former approach (i.e. # 1.). This set of people, must esteem and uphold the law and canons etc, for their righteousness. These people cannot and do not comprise the body of Christ. These people are under Peter's commission.

This is the basis of the entire KJV N.T. One who looks at the KJV N.T. with this approach, will find no contradictions at all, between Jesus and Paul or between any revelations in the KJV N.T.

Also the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is not the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus is the Spirit of Intercession. Jesus, clad only in His Spirit body, intercedes between each human (according their individual spirits) and the Holy Spirit and come up with what each spiritually aware person must know, pray for, say and do, in real time, all the time. He that search his own heart/spirit comes to know what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for him or her to know, pray for, say and do.

What the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do as discerned through one's own heart or spirit, is a perfect amalgam of 1.) the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of one's own heart or spirit and 2.) the will of God which is the Holy Spirit.



The verses quoted above are only a few from the KJV N.T., which can and do absolutely and literally support the totality of this and other related posts done by me.

Fact is, the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) of those billion or so, called Christians are anchored on absolute foolishness and corruption. They are misinformed and misled by false prophets who came in Jesus' name. These false prophets are within the very core of their organizations, as their leader, priests and elders, etc.. Most of them have buried their relative, friend and their other charges irreversibly and irrecoverably. They are actively committed to (any which way) doing the same to every one else.

People are urged to wake up and smell the aroma of truth . . . . the fullness of time is at hand and this is the last chance to come onto truth, as confirmed by revelations in the KJV N.T..
You continue to insist that sinning is ok. No justification of sin should ever be allowed. Sin is lawlessness. This is awful. I would normally but each if your points, but I really don't want to muck through the terrible usages of the Biblical material.
 

Gurucam

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You continue to insist that sinning is ok. No justification of sin should ever be allowed. Sin is lawlessness. This is awful. I would normally but each if your points, but I really don't want to muck through the terrible usages of the Biblical material.

What is this accusation that: "You continue to insist that sinning is ok."?

You, who seems to esteem the law, is bearing false witness. You are transgress the law by your own whim and authority.

I insist on nothing.

It is clearly you who seems to be 'self-righteously' and deliberately corrupting scriptures.

I simply provide the KJV N.T. revelations which confirm clearly and plainly that some people have liberty to transgress the law and get no sin.

It is the KJV N.T. who insists that you do not corrupt and undermine its revelations. However you do not listen. You go about your own 'made up' righteousness and Satanically seek to pass that off as Christianity.

For example (to quote just one) :

The Act: 13 verse: 39 KJV N.T.
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Note the word "justified'. "Justified" is a very clear and powerful word. It conveys that those who believe in the lord Jesus will not simply be forgiven if they transgress the law. "Justified" conveys that one who believe in the Lord Jesus, has a God given right to transgress the law and get no sin.

JonahofAkron you and no one else, have the authority to take away that right from humans who believe in the Lord Jesus. Only Satan or a Satan operative (and other antichrist operatives) will venture to deny this right to those who believe in the Lord Jesus and they (Satan and Satan operatives) are terminally endangered. If your church does this thing, know that they are the church of Satan.

You cannot be a Christian if you deny that God given right to Christians. At worse, you are simply pretending to be Christian. At best you are simply a 'Johnny come lately' to the Old Mosaic (law based) system. You must simply be pretending to be Christians so as to come among genuine aspiring Christians, as a spy, so as to deliberately misled them and serve some (or your) Satanic agenda.
Galatians: 2 verse: 4 KJV N.T.
And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
I ask you: If this verse (i.e. The Act: 13 verse: 39 KJV N.T.) does not say that those who believe in the Lord Jesus are justified to do the things which the Ten Commandments did not allow, then please post your translation of this KJV N.T. revelation.

Note also that this revelation came from the Act of the Apostles. It did not come from Paul and his commission, both of who and which (i.e. Paul and his commission), you most probably deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine, habitually and routinely. This is the well established tradition of those who esteem and anchor their life on the law and canons etc. Do you deny this fact? Don't you and yours habitually and routinely deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine Paul and Paul's commission?

My absolute and firm conclusion is that those who believe in the Lord Jesus has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. And this is supported unequivocally by many revelations in the KJV N.T.

Only a Satan operative can and will come among anyone, including aspiring Christians (and 'babes in Christ') and deny this truth. One must have a waxed grossed heart in order to deny this truth. This is the mark of Satan and his operatives.

Come forth and provide your, "lemon used car sales man's" distortion of the above revelation (i.e. The Act: 13 verse: 39 KJV N.T.), for I perceive that is the only thing possible for you to do.

click the little arrow for the full details and more supporting revelations

It is fitting enough to simply and quickly get the point of the post and respond to that. You need not read endlessly if that is not your wish.

However do not run and try to hide. It would not work, blasphemers are dealt with even in their best hiding places. In fact, according to revelations in the KJV N.T., those who blaspheme Paul and his commission are dismissed to hell irretrievably.

You may not know it but those who blaspheme Jesus' revelation in The Act: 13 verse: 39 KJV N.T. are actually blaspheming the Holy Ghost. And that is absolutely not forgivable at any place or time. The revelation in The Act: 13 verse: 39 KJV N.T. is basis of Paul's commission which is anchored on the Son of God, Spirit of the Lord Jesus. In this Son of God format Jesus is entitle to all privileges of the Holy Ghost.
 
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beloved57

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preached unto you the forgiveness of sins !

preached unto you the forgiveness of sins !

Acts 13:38

38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

Now exactly who is it that has to them preached the forgiveness of sins ? Why first of all it is to them that have Forgiveness of sins ! Remember Paul wrote to the Ephesians, those Chosen in Christ Eph 1:4 these words Eph 1:7

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Also Paul is following the directive of Christ that He gave to them that were Apostles before him Lk 24:45-49

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Look at Vs 47 How they are to Preach Remission / Forgiveness of sins in His Name !

Now Paul specifiys in the context of Acts 13, exactly who it is that this Forgiveness of sins is Preached to Acts 13:16

16 Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel[Elect People], and ye that fear God[Regenerated People], give audience.

Notice that it is Preached to them that Fear God, David once wrote Ps 130:4

4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.

Only those who have been given a New Heart, One that Fears God, which man doesnt have by nature Rom 3:18, only then do we have a Legitiment right to have the forgiveness of sins preached unto us. Again Paul states exactly who it is that the Word of Salvation is being sent Acts 13:26

26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation or forgiveness of sins sent.

If we are not of the whosoever that is fearing God by New Birth and New Heart, this Word of Salvation/ Forgiveness of sins, is not said to be sent you !
 

beloved57

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preached unto you the forgiveness of sins !2

preached unto you the forgiveness of sins !2

It may be argued that Paul was speaking to jews in Acts 13, and that would be correct, but its also true that the same words he preached to the jews, he preached the next sabaath to the Gentiles Acts 13:42

42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

For the same principle of sending the Gospel/Word of Salvation to those who Fear God among the Gentiles is seen as it regarded Cornelius and his house, where it reads Acts 10:1-2,22

There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,

2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.

And so Christ sent Peter to Preach to them the Word of Salvation Acts 10:34-44

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all)

37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

s you can see in Vs 43 Forgiveness of sins was Preached to these Gentiles. The Holy Ghost sealed them that heard the Gospel of their Salvation as Per Eph 1:13

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

See Cornelius and those in house that feared God had received remission of sins Vs 43, that what Jesus meant by giving Peter the Vision earlier of the unclean animals, typifying the Gentiles, that by His Blood they had been cleansed and are clean Acts 10:15

15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common

Now that word cleansed is the word katharizo and means:

iii.to free from guilt of sin[which is forgiveness], to purify. Its the same word Jesus used to describe His Disciples except judas Jn 13:10

Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.

So Cornelius had already received forgiveness of sins/ Salvation as his portion, prior to God sending him by Peter the Message of Salvation to Preach to him, so he might believe it Acts 10:43-44

43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.


This also means the Salvation and the Forgiveness of sins are One and the Same Blessing. In fact if we study the Truth of Salvation as it is Taught in the scriptures, one of its branches is Salvation or Saved from the penalty of sin, which is derived from the forgiveness of its Guilt.

So when its said that Peter or Paul Preached unto them the Forgiveness of sins, it was to inform the forgiven and to seal it to their Minds, that which was already laid to their charge or account, Salvation by the Forgiveness of sins Lk 1:77

77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

Salvation here is Identified with remission or forgiveness of sins, and this Message will be sent to them that Fear God !
 

Gurucam

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Both righteousness of God with the law and and with out the law exists side by side.

Both righteousness of God with the law and and with out the law exists side by side.

Romans: 3 verse: 21 KJV NT.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
This is not my revelation. This is a revelation from the KJV N.T. which is totally supported by many other independent revelations in the KJV N.T.

(Imagine, entire churches of principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world, anti-spiritual and wicked people in high places, including their billion or so followers totally and absolutely deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine the above revelation, while simultaneously and falsely posturing and presenting themselves as Christians.) . . . and some believe that they are holier than God.

However you must be humble. Do not assume that you know. Let the KJV N.T., teach you.

You must note that now (i.e. since some 2000 odd years ago) there is righteousness of God that is without the law. Do not deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine this truth which is anchored on the Spirit of the lord Jesus. This is the Lord Jesus clad only in his Spirit, Son of God, body. Blasphemy of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is not different from blasphemy of the Holy Ghost. Blasphemy of the Spirit Son of God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are both not at all forgivable at any place or time. Do not continue to be fooled by false prophets who came in Jesus' name. Do not dismiss, deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine authentic KJV N.T. revelations. Only Satan will urge you to do so. Beware.

Galatians: 5 verse: 18 KJV N.T.
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Note that only anti-spiritual and wicked people in high places will deny the above. And they do. Today we have, entire churches of principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world, anti-spiritual and wicked people in high places, including their billion or so followers totally, absolutely and actively denying, persecuting, blaspheming and undermining the above revelation, while simultaneously and falsely posturing and presenting themselves as Christians. Is it any wonder why many are called to Christianity and few chosen?

The above is only a small example of these people's blasphemy. These people actively, deliberately and routine deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine Paul and his commission:
Romans: 3 verse: 19 KJV N.T. confirmed:
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

So, Paul confirmed that "what things soever the law saith, it saith (only) to them who are under the law"

The phrase "to them who are under the law' conveys that only some people are under the law.

The reason being that since 2000 odd years ago. Righteousness of God that is with the law exists side by side with righteousness of God that is without the law.

Some people are under righteousness of God with the laws and some are under righteousness of God that is without the law.

The first set of people are under the law and canons, etc., according to Peter's commission. They cannot be saved and/or delivered. They cannot be Christians. (Christians are not under laws and canons, they are under the Spirit of the Lord Jesus). At best, only the individual spirits of people in this commission, might be saved, in the day of the lord Jesus. If their spirits are not saved they remain in hell, within the depths of earth. They are buried in the earth together with their dead physical body to wait indefinitely on the return of the son of man, Jesus. This is when their spirits might be saved in the day of the lord Jesus. Those who blaspheme the Spiritual, Son of God, Jesus is in danger of not being redeemed by the physical, son of man Jesus.

The latter (the other set of people) are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, according to Paul's commission. They have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin, but instead be glorified by God. These are children of God and/or Christians. They differs in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ. They are saved and delivered into God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and in spirit heaven. When these people die, they all rise (at all times), in three days, to be like angels in heaven (like the Lord Jesus). The spiritually dead will always deny this truth.

The law is not for everyone, the law is only for those who are under the law. To teach anything else is purely Satanic and antichrist. It does not matter that entire churches of principalities and municipalities teach that all is under the law. It does not matter that the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) of those called to Christianity believes that all is under the law.

The fact is that only a few will know and have truth. They are the chosen few who actually know truth and do not err.

I am offering a ticket to that passage which the few traveled so as to be the chosen few. This is based totally on uncorrupted revelations in the KJV N.T. It is through individualized, personalized and intuitive communion with and direct guidance by, the 'not seen', eternal and living Jesus, who is clad only in His Spirit, Son of God body, currently 'sitting on the right side of the Holy Ghost', in spirit heaven. It is not through the still expected return of the 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Jesus.

Those who wish to wait on the 'seen' physical and temporal son of man, Jesus, that is O.K. Indeed leave them to that approach which is anchored on Peter's commission.

I would like to introduce you to the eternal 'not seen', Spiritual, Son of God, Jesus and His approach. You come onto this approach which is anchored on Paul's commission.
 
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beloved57

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Gospel to be Preached in all the World !

Gospel to be Preached in all the World !

Why was the Gospel to be Preached in all the World ? Mk 16:15-16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Most spiritually unlearned people appeal to a passage such as this, and force it to mean that God would have mankind to have a chance at believing the Gospel and get themselves saved; Yet though Jesus did command His disciples to go into all the world to preach the Gospel, God had different purposes in doing so ! In the Purpose of God, the Gospel was to be for some a savor of Life unto Life, but also to others it was designed to be a savor of death unto death 2 Cor 2:14-16

14 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.


15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

The Gospel goes into the World and finds the ears of two different types of people, them that are saved, and them that perish or who are lost ! That word perish in Vs 15 is the greek word apollymi and its the same word translated lost in 2 Cor 4:3

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost

So the True Believer, who believes in Election, doesnt believe the Gospel should not be preached in all world, but we understand that it is to be preached to all, but that it in the purpose of God will serve different ends, we know that to the saved, it shall be a savor of life unto life, and to them that perish or are lost, it serves as a savor of death unto death, and hence either way, it serves the Purpose of God, Isaiah wrote Isa 55:11

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that[purpose] which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Two types of people live in this world, Vessels of wrath, and Vessels of Mercy, to the vessels of wrath, the word is sent to be a message of death, to the Vessels of Mercy, its the Message of Life , all to the Glory of God !
 

beloved57

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Preaching/speaking the Mystery of Christ !

Preaching/speaking the Mystery of Christ !

Col 4:2-3

2 Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;

3 Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:


Many if not all in organized religion dont understand that to Preach Christ and Him Crucified, the Gospel 1 Cor 2:2 is to preach a Mystery !

It baffles me how many false teachers tell us that anyone can believe the Gospel of Christ, even a natural child ! But this is a Lie, not only can a natural child believe the Gospel, but neither can a natural adult, for the Gospel of Christ is a Mystery, which means something that needs to be revealed, because its out of the grasp of the natural ! How did Paul believe the Gospel of Christ ? It had to be revealed to him Gal 1:11-12

11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Its to have the Son revealed in us Gal 1:16

16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Now the Gospel of Christ as it is a Mysterty , in order for any to believe it, receive it, it must be revealed to us by the Spirit ! Again 1 Cor 2:1-7

And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

Now what is the Wisdom of God here spoken in a Mystery ? Its Christ an Him Crucified !

See 1 Cor 1:23-24

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Christ is the Wisdom of God in a Mystery 1 Cor 2:7 !

And so, a Mystery cannot be believed upon naturally, it must be revealed by God's Spirit !

We need the Spirit first to receive the things of the Spirit of God, which the Gospel of Christ is 1 Cor 2:12

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

So when we read 1 Cor 15:3-4 these are Truths that are connected to A Mystery, the Mystery of Christ, and they cannot be savingly believed upon apart from a Divine revelation of the Spirit !

Anyone saying that anybody can believe the Gospel as a natural man, they are lying against the Truth !
 

Nanja

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Col 4:2-3

2 Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;

3 Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:


Many if not all in organized religion dont understand that to Preach Christ and Him Crucified, the Gospel 1 Cor 2:2 is to preach a Mystery !

It baffles me how many false teachers tell us that anyone can believe the Gospel of Christ, even a natural child ! But this is a Lie, not only can a natural child believe the Gospel, but neither can a natural adult, for the Gospel of Christ is a Mystery, which means something that needs to be revealed, because its out of the grasp of the natural ! How did Paul believe the Gospel of Christ ? It had to be revealed to him Gal 1:11-12

11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Its to have the Son revealed in us Gal 1:16

16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Now the Gospel of Christ as it is a Mystery , in order for any to believe it, receive it, it must be revealed to us by the Spirit ! Again 1 Cor 2:1-7



Now what is the Wisdom of God here spoken in a Mystery ? Its Christ an Him Crucified !

See 1 Cor 1:23-24

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Christ is the Wisdom of God in a Mystery 1 Cor 2:7 !

And so, a Mystery cannot be believed upon naturally, it must be revealed by God's Spirit !

We need the Spirit first to receive the things of the Spirit of God, which the Gospel of Christ is 1 Cor 2:12

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

So when we read 1 Cor 15:3-4 these are Truths that are connected to A Mystery, the Mystery of Christ, and they cannot be savingly believed upon apart from a Divine revelation of the Spirit !

Anyone saying that anybody can believe the Gospel as a natural man, they are lying against the Truth !



Amen!

The Gospel, "Christ and Him Crucified" 1 Cor. 2:2, and all that those Words signify, is a Mystery that
only those whom God qualifies, His Children Eph. 1:5, the Body of Christ He loved from Everlasting Jer. 31:3,
will have it revealed to them through His Spirit.

Scriptures speak of a Mystery about Christ:

1 Cor. 2:7-8 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom,
which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew:
for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory
.

2 Tim. 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works,
but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began


Rev. 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life
of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.



But those outside of the Elect Body of Christ, which God has no love for, the Gospel is hid
from them 2 Cor. 4:3-4, and so they are drawn to false gospels which give glory to the flesh of man.

~~~~~
 

beloved57

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Amen!

The Gospel, "Christ and Him Crucified" 1 Cor. 2:2, and all that those Words signify, is a Mystery that
only those whom God qualifies, His Children Eph. 1:5, the Body of Christ He loved from Everlasting Jer. 31:3,
will have it revealed to them through His Spirit.

Scriptures speak of a Mystery about Christ:

1 Cor. 2:7-8 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom,
which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew:
for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory
.

2 Tim. 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works,
but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began


Rev. 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life
of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.






But those outside of the Elect Body of Christ, which God has no love for, the Gospel is hid
from them 2 Cor. 4:3-4, and so they are drawn to false gospels which give glory to the flesh of man.

~~~~~

Absolutely, I am glad you mentioned these Two verses, because they most assuredly are part of the Mystery of Christ in the True Gospel !

I would like to add, that as He is the Wisdom of God 1 Cor 1:24, He was set up as The Mediator/ Surety from Everlasting for His Work Prov 8:22-23

22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

His delights were the sons of men because He was set up as their Mediator Prov 8:31

31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

The sons of men here are those Chosen in Him before the foundation and were given Grace in Him 2 Tim 1:9;Eph 1:4 !
 

Nanja

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Absolutely, I am glad you mentioned these Two verses, because they most assuredly are part of the Mystery of Christ in the True Gospel !

TY, yes they are!


I would like to add, that as He is the Wisdom of God 1 Cor 1:24, He was set up as The Mediator/ Surety from Everlasting for His Work Prov 8:22-23

22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

His delights were the sons of men because He was set up as their Mediator Prov 8:31

31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

The sons of men here are those Chosen in Him before the foundation and were given Grace in Him 2 Tim 1:9;Eph 1:4 !


I always agree with all your statements!


Christ was set up as The Mediator / Surety in the Everlasting Covenant
to do the Work His Father gave Him to do John 17:4, which was to shed His Blood
exclusively for those sons of men Chosen in Him before the foundation of the world.


1 Pet. 1:18-20 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things,
as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
(v.19) But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
(v.20) Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,


Is. 42:6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand,
and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles


Christ is the Surety or Pledger of that Covenant for God's Chosen People Eph. 1:3-4; 1 Pet. 2:9.
out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation!

Rev. 5:9-10 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people,
and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

~~~~~
 
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