Oh that's right...Alcohol and tobacco have virtually no medicinal value and in fact those 2 substances kill more people every year than marijuana has in all of human history.
Sorry, I forgot about that.
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Oh that's right...Alcohol and tobacco have virtually no medicinal value and in fact those 2 substances kill more people every year than marijuana has in all of human history.
Sorry, I forgot about that.
From the "pot never killed anyone" file:
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/
https://www.laweekly.com/news/la-ma...ariz-congresswoman-giffords-senseless-2392913
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/trayvon-martin/article1951821.html
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/medical-examiner-causeway-cannibal-not-high-on-bath-salts/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...Holmes-fixated-by-altered-states-of-mind.html
https://www.cnn.com/2013/06/07/us/philadelphia-building-collapse/index.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/marijuana-grower-killed-booby-trap-article-1.1444173
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/l...aving_sex_with_his_stepdaughter_s_corpse.html
And on... And on... And on...
drbrumley
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All true, but that didn't address his comment, which is, "those 2 substances ( Alcohol and tobacco) kill more people every year than marijuana has in all of human history."
I wasn't talking about DUI traffic fatalities. That is a separate issue. DUI aside, alcohol and tobacco use kills hundreds of thousands of people every year. How many people does marijuana use kill every year?
Alcohol and tobacco use kills hundreds of thousands of people every year. How many people does marijuana use kill every year?
drbrumley
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That's what I thought....:chuckle:
Quite a few more than the nearly 0 caused by overdose.
Funnily enough, I can't seem to find any studies that say how many pot related deaths there are per year.
Not enough data? Or hiding the truth?
:think:
:idunno:
drbrumley
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Excerpt from Laurence M. Vance (Why Not Execute Alcohol and Tobacco Dealers?}
according to the CDC:
Cigarette smoking is the leading preventable cause of death in the United States.
Cigarette smoking causes more than 480,000 deaths each year in the United States.
Smoking causes more deaths each year than the following causes combined: HIV, illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, firearm-related incidents.
More than 10 times as many U.S. citizens have died prematurely from cigarette smoking than have died in all the wars fought by the United States.
Smoking causes about 90% of all lung cancer deaths.
Smoking causes about 80% of all deaths from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).
Cigarette smoking increases risk for death from all causes in men and women.
Smokers are more likely than nonsmokers to develop heart disease, stroke, and lung cancer.
Smoking causes diminished overall health, increased absenteeism from work, and increased health care utilization and cost.
Smokers are at greater risk for diseases that affect the heart and blood vessels.
Smoking causes stroke and coronary heart disease, which are among the leading causes of death in the United States.
Smoking damages blood vessels and can make them thicken and grow narrower.
Smoking can cause cancer almost anywhere in your body: bladder, blood, cervix, colon, rectum, esophagus, kidneys, larynx, liver, oropharynx, pancreas, stomach, trachea, bronchus, and lungs.
Smoking also increases the risk of dying from cancer and other diseases in cancer patients and survivors.
Smoking harms nearly every organ of the body and affects a person’s overall health.
Smoking can make it harder for a woman to become pregnant.
Smoking can affect bone health.
Smoking affects the health of your teeth and gums and can cause tooth loss.
Smoking can increase your risk for cataracts and macular degeneration.
Smoking is a cause of type 2 diabetes mellitus and can make it harder to control.
Smoking causes general adverse effects on the body, including inflammation and decreased immune function.
Smoking is a cause of rheumatoid arthritis.
If the government should execute drug dealers, then why should it not also execute alcohol and tobacco dealers? Why not destroy distilleries, breweries, and wineries and execute their workers? Why not round up the owners of, and clerks at, grocery stores, convenience stores, and liquor stores and execute them for causing the deaths of thousands of people?
Seems rather ludicrous to single out drug dealers, doesn’t it?
So, what should the government do about the health problems resulting from the use of alcohol, tobacco, and drugs? What should the government do about binge drinking, chain smoking, and drug abuse?
Absolutely nothing.
according to the CDC:
Cigarette smoking is the leading preventable cause of death in the United States.
Cigarette smoking causes more than 480,000 deaths each year in the United States.
Smoking causes more deaths each year than the following causes combined: HIV, illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, firearm-related incidents.
More than 10 times as many U.S. citizens have died prematurely from cigarette smoking than have died in all the wars fought by the United States.
Smoking causes about 90% of all lung cancer deaths.
Smoking causes about 80% of all deaths from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).
Cigarette smoking increases risk for death from all causes in men and women.
Smokers are more likely than nonsmokers to develop heart disease, stroke, and lung cancer.
Smoking causes diminished overall health, increased absenteeism from work, and increased health care utilization and cost.
Smokers are at greater risk for diseases that affect the heart and blood vessels.
Smoking causes stroke and coronary heart disease, which are among the leading causes of death in the United States.
Smoking damages blood vessels and can make them thicken and grow narrower.
Smoking can cause cancer almost anywhere in your body: bladder, blood, cervix, colon, rectum, esophagus, kidneys, larynx, liver, oropharynx, pancreas, stomach, trachea, bronchus, and lungs.
Smoking also increases the risk of dying from cancer and other diseases in cancer patients and survivors.
Smoking harms nearly every organ of the body and affects a person’s overall health.
Smoking can make it harder for a woman to become pregnant.
Smoking can affect bone health.
Smoking affects the health of your teeth and gums and can cause tooth loss.
Smoking can increase your risk for cataracts and macular degeneration.
Smoking is a cause of type 2 diabetes mellitus and can make it harder to control.
Smoking causes general adverse effects on the body, including inflammation and decreased immune function.
Smoking is a cause of rheumatoid arthritis.
If the government should execute drug dealers, then why should it not also execute alcohol and tobacco dealers? Why not destroy distilleries, breweries, and wineries and execute their workers? Why not round up the owners of, and clerks at, grocery stores, convenience stores, and liquor stores and execute them for causing the deaths of thousands of people?
Seems rather ludicrous to single out drug dealers, doesn’t it?
So, what should the government do about the health problems resulting from the use of alcohol, tobacco, and drugs? What should the government do about binge drinking, chain smoking, and drug abuse?
Absolutely nothing.
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drbrumley
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According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC):
Drinking too much can harm your health. Excessive alcohol use led to approximately 88,000 deaths and 2.5 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) each year in the United States from 2006 – 2010, shortening the lives of those who died by an average of 30 years. Further, excessive drinking was responsible for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20-64 years. The economic costs of excessive alcohol consumption in 2010 were estimated at $249 billion, or $2.05 a drink.
Drinking too much can harm your health. Excessive alcohol use led to approximately 88,000 deaths and 2.5 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) each year in the United States from 2006 – 2010, shortening the lives of those who died by an average of 30 years. Further, excessive drinking was responsible for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20-64 years. The economic costs of excessive alcohol consumption in 2010 were estimated at $249 billion, or $2.05 a drink.
So a smaller percentage of a small percentage?
Who cares.
The only percentage that mattered in the end was 55% to 44% on Michigan proposal one.
The common person knows how to acquire wine because there's a multi billion dollar industry delivering it to their corner market. MJ is a Weed, they even call it Weed. It grows anywhere. You can make a bad batch of wine but nobody has ever planted a pot seed and accidentally grown a carrot.
Well for starters there are actual alcohol deaths where people get alcohol poisoning or drown in their own vomit after they pass out.
You don't get that with weed.
Yep. You have no idea what this conversation is about.
This conversation is about whatever I want to say on the topic. :up:
