Unbelievers can do good.
But not in a sense of earning God's favor. Yet God did recognize the actions of unbelievers in the scriptures as good.
OSAS V Who's The Most Righteous Anti OSAS Poster?
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Unbelievers can do good.
But not in a sense of earning God's favor. Yet God did recognize the actions of unbelievers in the scriptures as good.
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Attempted deflections always amuse me.
Nimrod
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I asked if "believing the gospel" is good. He said Yes.
I point to Scripture Romans 3:12 " None do good ". He said it refers to unbelievers.
So if unbelievers can not do good, how can they "believe the gospel"?
This is a problem with your theology. Synergism will have to twist what was clearly said. While you are unable to comprehend.
This is common sense to those God never drew or to those God drew.
It beats me that 90% of the TOL'ers don't have simple common sense .
Beats me why God created so many silly people.
SaulToPaul 2
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Do it, do it, for the love of Mike...
You shore are the wiry, moody, sensitive type. You need to go on over to the corner room, at "The Y," and relax, with perhaps some chilli.
God's Truth
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According to you, they are saved for believing and not obeying, for you say if anyone believes and did anything, such as repent, then they are not saved.
God's Truth
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If once saved always saved, then why does Jesus say a person who keeps sinning has NO PERMANENT place in the HOME?
John 8:35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever.
John 8:35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever.
God's Truth
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My defense is God's Word.
All I have to do is speak God's Truth and you get riled up.
Keep listening and being offended.
glorydaz
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Whoever "he" is, he is correct. Of course you'd have to actually read the scripture Paul was quoting from before you'd notice that there are two groups of people. The fool who says there is no God and "my people".
How can they believe? Simple.....we believe without DOING one single thing. Believing is being persuaded (by facts in evidence) that some certain fact is true. When I look outside and see the rain, I believe it is raining. God makes the rain....it rains in spite of anything I might do. I see an apple fall from the tree and believe in gravity. Did I do one single thing to make that apple fall? You won't be able to "comprehend" anything unless you use the brain God gave you.
If you read the scripture Paul cites, he most certainly is speaking of unbelievers. The fool has said in his heart there is no God. Are those men fools who believe?
Psalm 14:1-5
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the Lord. There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the Lord. There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.
glorydaz
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You workers are slaves. Those who believe are adopted into the family....just as John says, "a son abides forever". :duh:
The law was made for sinners such as you....until faith comes. Sadly, your faith is in your own obedience. Man can only be justified by the obedience of the ONE Lord Jesus Christ. Not you, and you should thank God salvation does not rest on your obedience.
AMEN! G
If it did, she'd be in REAL trouble!
glorydaz
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You don't even know the meaning of the word "repent", so I'd suggest you zip your lip before you step on it. :chuckle:
It's such a simple truth, yet you can't quite figure it out. :nono:
Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
glorydaz
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This is common sense to those God never drew or to those God drew.
It beats me that 90% of the TOL'ers don't have simple common sense .
Beats me why God created so many silly people.
It beats me, why they let "Nitwits" like yourself to spread their
false doctrine all over TOL?
Good post!
Christ was speaking to the Jews!