Because they know what it says and are going to try and pull people form the faith.
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OSAS V Who's The Most Righteous Anti OSAS Poster?
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Because they know what it says and are going to try and pull people form the faith.
dreadknought
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Asking others to judge? Those outside of the body are judged already.
Meshak Bs Guy and GT
Believing the gospel is only part way to being saved.
There are works of faith.
Jesus called them fruit.
Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Joh 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Joh 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Paul said---
Act 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Act 26:21 For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
LA
redemption is a free gift
but
not salvation
the phrase once saved always saved
suggests you are not really saved
or
you do not understand what saved means
saved is saved
Protestants use this vague expression of Paul's word to pervert Christianity.
Jesus did not teach it.
Jesus emphasized over and over to be faithful or obedient to Him until the end.
Christianity is all about obeying Jesus' teachings and commands.
so what is the good news?
God's kingdom.
It is available to anyone who love God and Jesus with their words and deeds.
I order to do that, we have to give up our worldly desires and mentality.
Jesus teaches us how to do that in His word.
great answer
heir
TOL Subscriber
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Your mind is corrupted.
Zeke
Well-known member
Romans 9:21, 11:16, 11:28, 11:30, 11:32, 11:33-34, universal lump is leavened or every so called sin wasn't paid for by Christ, though this is an inward principle the outward story results in the same way, all are saved or none of the fruit is excepted at the end of the tale.
CherubRam
New member
Grace is not a license to sin.
Hebrews 10:26
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,...
Eternal life is the free gift of God.
Redemption is not free as Messiah paid for it.
Obedience to God is that we believe the Father is well pleased with the Son, God is indeed well pleased with the redemption purchased by Messiah and we who believe are united to God thru the Messiah. Those who reject the peace of God made thru redemption (that was not free) will be punished for their sins. I can never be punished for my sins, God punished Messiah in my place and set me free from guilt and condemnation.
Where sin abounds grace abounds more. But we are not to take this fact and use it as a liscence to sin.
heir
TOL Subscriber
Someone should have told God that Christ did not have to die on the cross for our sins, be buried and be raised from the dead for our justification; we could have just had a potluck dinner. And forget that rightly dividing stuff too, we'll just make it all one pot meal as to us for our obedience which can't be done.
Nimrod
Member
How does unsaved people believe the gospel if they are unable to do good?
musterion
Well-known member
They're able to believe the Gospel. Most don't.
Look at Cain. Born dead in his father's sin. Yet God tried to reason with him before he slew his brother.
Why was God attempting to appeal to someone who could do no good? Is God a liar?
Nimrod
Member
Scriptures say "none do good". Yet, you think unbelievers can do good.
This is why synergists are not consistent. They have to twist what was said.
I'm on Scriptures side. "none do good". You can only do good when God enables you to do so. To have faith is only possible if God gives it to you.
glorydaz
Well-known member
Doing good and hearing are two different things. Your claim that faith is given to us by God is contrary to the Gospel being the POWER of God unto salvation. Faith comes from hearing and hearing BY THE WORD OF GOD.
Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
There would be NO POINT in preaching the Gospel if it didn't have the POWER to persuade men. Persuade is a very important word....
And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not HEARD?
And how shall they HEAR without a preacher? :think:
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?