"OSAS" people are not answering this question.

[Jamie Gigliotti]

God who lives inside the saved works at making us WANT TO OBEY HIM. God does NOT force us to want to obey; and certainly does not force us to obey. You are repeating something taught to you by false teachers.

Good works come from Him in us. Jesus said apart from me you can do nothing. Nothing good anyway.

 

[God's Truth]

Christ died on the cross for a world of lost sinners. ALL of mankind's
sins were paid for. However, one can only benefit from Christ's death
and resurrection if they hear the Grace Gospel, place all their faith in
Christ as their Savior. The Holy Spirit then, seals, indwells and baptizes
them into the Body of Christ.

They not only have their sins paid for, but they also receive the
righteousness of Christ. They will not face the Judgement that
awaits the unbeliever.

We have to repent of our sins if we want to be saved.

If a faithful believer murders someone after being saved, they must repent of their sin.

 

[Shasta]

It's evident that 1 John 1:8 is about Grosnick and his ilk.

Except that he and other proponents of MAD refuse to accept that the letters of John are for believers today. They all relegate them and even the Four Gospels to another dispensation. This is despite repeated attempts on my part to present internal and external evidence showing that none of John's writings were addressed specifically to Jews but mainly to Gentiles. When the evidence does not fit into their doctrinal paradigm they either tamper with the evidence or flatly refuse to address it.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Romans 6:23 states: "For the wages of sin is death,
but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our
Lord.

We all must face physical death. However, if one is a "True Believer"
they will receive God's free gift of eternal life which is in Jesus Christ.

 

[elohiym]

ALL of mankind's
sins were paid for.

The wages of sin is, physical death. We all face that.

Why do you still have to pay the wages of sin if "ALL of mankind's sins were paid for?"

FYI: The wages of sin is strictly spiritual death, not physical death.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

I am experiencing deja vu, reminded of a time a few years ago that Elo and I had a knock down drag out fight about this very same topic.

I hope I am older and wiser now to avoid it.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

We have to repent of our sins if we want to be saved.

If a faithful believer murders someone after being saved, they must repent of their sin.

If someone commits murder, they should face the death penalty.

What do YOU mean by "Repent?"

 

[God's Truth]

Good works come from Him in us. Jesus said apart from me you can do nothing. Nothing good anyway.

Even sinners love those who love them.

Luke 6:32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them.


All good is from God, but that does not mean God forces anyone to do good.

We have to come through Jesus to be reconciled to God. Those on the side of truth are those with good hearts that will come to Jesus and obey.

See John 18:37, Luke 8:15,and Matthew 12:35.


We are to humble ourselves so that we have the heart that Jesus saves and makes his home with.

 

[Jamie Gigliotti]

Do you still do any of the acts listed by Paul in Galatians 5:19-21? Yes or no?

I would say no but you better ask my wife she's probably a better judge and I am. And I know God is. We will let him be the judge. I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling. Are you?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Why do you still have to pay the wages of sin if "ALL of mankind's sins were paid for?"

FYI: The wages of sin is strictly spiritual death, not physical death.

That is subjective.

 

[elohiym]

Except that he and other proponents of MAD refuse to accept the letters of John are for believers today. They all relegate them and even the Four Gospels to another dispensation.

We can refute their false gospel using only Paul's writings.

This is despite repeated attempts to show internal and external evidence that none of John's writings were addressed specifically to Jews but mainly to Gentiles.

I blame it on strong delusion from God.

When the evidence does not fit into their doctrinal paradigm they either tamper with the evidence or flatly refuse to address it.

Shocking, isn't it?

 

[Shasta]

You claimed to have no sin.

I already answer the question I asked you. My answer is no.

Your turn to clarify what you mean by no sin:

Do you still do any of the acts listed by Paul in Galatians 5:19-21? Yes or no?

I'm not asking you to confess to specific acts, just if you do any of those acts listed since you believed the gospel you preach.

According to Jesus sin is also pondering those things.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Unsaved man will be judged by his "Works."

 

[God's Truth]

I would say no but you better ask my wife she's probably a better judge and I am. And I know God is. We will let him be the judge. I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling. Are you?

How are you working out your salvation with fear and trembling if you do not know what you are working out?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Shocking, isn't it?

Are you trembling as we speak?

 

[God's Truth]

If someone commits murder, they should face the death penalty.

What do YOU mean by "Repent?"

Repent means to be sorry for your sin and to stop doing it.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Why do you still have to pay the wages of sin if "ALL of mankind's sins were paid for?"

FYI: The wages of sin is strictly spiritual death, not physical death.

Unsaved man is already "Spiritually" dead as he walks the earth.
The verse speaks of physical death.

 

[Right Divider]

Repent means to be sorry for your sin and to stop doing it.

That's not what the Bible says.

 

[elohiym]

I would say no but you better ask my wife she's probably a better judge and I am.

:chuckle: All I care about is if you believe your answer.

I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling. Are you?

That depends what you think it means to do so. I could say "I did" or "yes," or even "no" depending on what you mean.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Repent means to be sorry for your sin and to stop doing it.

So, you believe in order to be saved, one must first, never
sin again?