musterion
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You said every word He spoke was for salvation.
ECT No one was "looking forward to the cross"
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You said every word He spoke was for salvation.
musterion
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Dodge won't touch it.
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Musterion rote:
Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
When I said no one was looking forward to the cross, I mean no one knew of all that God was going to accomplish through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. That is what no one was looking forward to because, according to Paul, that aspect of the work of Christ was still an unrevealed secret hid in God.
Right, they (in Judaism) did not know that that is how the promises to Israel were going to be fulfilled.
this keeps the sense of Eph 3:5-6 which is that the mystery was that this would happen THROUGH THE GOSPEL whereas Judaism thought it would be through the Law. By being through the Gospel, the outcomes look entirely different. The incoming Gentiles is now the raised tent of David, etc, Acts 15:15
Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
When I said no one was looking forward to the cross, I mean no one knew of all that God was going to accomplish through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. That is what no one was looking forward to because, according to Paul, that aspect of the work of Christ was still an unrevealed secret hid in God.
Right, they (in Judaism) did not know that that is how the promises to Israel were going to be fulfilled.
this keeps the sense of Eph 3:5-6 which is that the mystery was that this would happen THROUGH THE GOSPEL whereas Judaism thought it would be through the Law. By being through the Gospel, the outcomes look entirely different. The incoming Gentiles is now the raised tent of David, etc, Acts 15:15
God's Truth
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Jesus taught the good news, the kingdom of heaven was near, and forgiveness of sins through him.
God's Truth
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I said Jesus came to earth and gave us the rules and regulations for the New Covenant, and then he shed his blood on the cross for the New Covenant.
How many times do you have to be told?
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
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You can only deny something as the apostles did after the Transfiguration if you know/knew it really well.
SaulToPaul 2
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Rationalization, humanism.
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Not much of a problem for those that read and believe the scriptures !
Judas did not preach the gospel of the risen Lord because he had already killed himself for betraying Jesus before Jesus was resurrected ,as per scripture.
Do you have any integrity at all ? You said you had me on ignore make up your mind.
musterion
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Then you lied, again, or said another irrelevant spam, when you spammed, the above, and this:
So, you admit that not all of the Lord Jesus Christ's commands, that He gave, while he walked on earth, are for everyone, demon?
Answer. Yes, or no.
You won't, as that would expose you again, for the deceitful fraud that you are-2+ years of silence on your part.
You said that we are "always to obey Jesus."
Fine. Sell all you have.
Con artist.
No, you argued "one gospel," deceiver. Thus, per Luke 9:6 KJV, you assert, on record, again, that Judas preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV.
5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’
So what is the kingdom of heaven? How did they answer?
So what is the kingdom of heaven? How did they answer?
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If this is where Danoh claimed I 'admitted' I was dishonest, he's at a new low of dishonesty. Wrong on this or that yes, not dishonest.
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No, but they didn't preach a monarchy good news either. We can gain some insight into human frailty by this line from FOYLE'S WAR: "Thinking about killing someone and actually killing someone are two completely different frames of mind."
Something like this swept the disciples, first expressed by Peter. 'this will never happen to you, Lord.' Hearing about his death, and stepping into the actual occurence of it are two different things.
I'm convinced they might have tried to prevent it; it was hidden until the Spirit could help them assimilate it after the resurrection; the Spirit itself is a gift to help the mission succeed.
God's Truth
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You are a twister of truth.
When Jesus told someone to do something, they had better do it.
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
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Then how could there be only one gospel, since they did not preach 1 Cor 15:1-4 (KJV)?
Be honest.
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Be honest, how could the Twelve preach 1 Cor 15:1-4 (KJV) before they knew it?
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