I base my understanding of the nation of Israel on scripture. In "Christianity" there are many different views from reading the same bible. That's why I ask from "your perspective". I'm trying to understand what your saying.
The reason I ask is because Jesus came to establish his covenant and set up his kingdom. You say he did not because the "nation" rejected him but it's obvious not all people of that nation did.
So, I'm trying to understand what you believe it will take for the "nation" to accept him?
He and his pals continually fail to make certain distinctions - which is why he so ignorantly took issue with your use of the phrase "from your perspective."
For the fact of that matter is that each person comes away from the Scripture with a perspective they view is Scripture's perspective and that they then decide to adopt as their own.
It was obvious to me you were merely respecting what his perspective might be.
But that is arrogance for ya.
His is a typical error with him and his pals.
Each have ended up long set in their conclusions on one thing or another; and each is often rather intolerant of anyone who does not agree with them and their pals, and so on.
Call that my perspective on theirs :chuckle:
But all kidding aside, they remain a rather poor example of how many MADs outside of TOL conduct themselves when dealing with anyone who has a different view, or who opposes their view.
This is why I get on them so - for the poor light they end up reflecting on all MADs.
A few rounds with those like that on here, and who in their right mind - of the few people out there who might actually want to here another's view out - would want to bother with MADs in general.
You're basically dealing with a very arrogant, intolerant, and narrow minded bunch, in most of them on here.
And if you think some of them reflect a bad light on this Forum, take a visit over to the Politics Forum - talk about a rabidly grace-less, idol worshipping bunch.
Yet they expect this MAD (me) to just allow them their hypocrisy and shaming of other MADs, without a peep.
This is their completely distorted, upside down view of Mid-Acts GRACE Dispensationalism.
It is crystal clear in Romans thru Philemon that the Apostle they claim to follow would not have put up with their nonsense and neither should anyone else.
Stand your ground, Turbo, until you are fully persuaded in your own mind otherwise - not only as to what we affirm, but also, as to the truth of the grace-lessness some so called "MADS" on here continue to ignorantly demonstrate is supposedly how one deals with another's opposing view.
Rom. 14:5; Rom. 5:6-8.