Michelle Obama Is A Woman

eider

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Those *men* do not believe women have the right to say no.

Insofar as male rape leading to suicide, it’s because those men know how a good portion of men will respond.
Exactly.
But if it happens to them they are unable to report such crimes.
They cannot seek counselling.
 

Hilltrot

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Well, since this is being bumped anyway. I don't believe in death penalty for rapists and child molesters because there are way too many false convictions.
 

OZOS

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SOME Christian men believe in the death penalty for rapists.
ALL Christian men believe God, those who don't only pretend to be Christians.

"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil."
 

eider

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Excuses and whining is no reason to murder babies.
So you would need to strongly support special care for pregnant rape victims, and if they decide to have the child your country should provide full and free healthcare, Best and free education and any needed subsistence until adulthood.

But you've shown no such inclination...... so I don't trust your idea of pro-life.
 

eider

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I've raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to help support single women and their newborn child. You?
I wasn't writing to you, but I think that's really great.
Can you tell us all about your efforts? Any links?

Me? My late wife and I decided to give up our 'two children only' rented home and move to a district whereby we could afford to keep our third child. I gave up my city job, and my wife gave up her part-time lab technician job to become a full time mother. Although doctors warned my wife that they were worried about why her body was trying to miscarry she wanted them to try to save the child. Sadly it was born with severe disabilities and died a month after birth.

We never did think of termination.

This idea that all moderates are murderers is mad.
 

eider

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ALL Christian men believe God, those who don't only pretend to be Christians.

"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil."
Sounds like Paul....
Yeah.... It's Paul.

Do you really believe that executing wrath on convicts is killing them?
If so, then you believe in Death for the following evils:-

Romans:
{13:4} For he is the minister
of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be
afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the
minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him
that doeth evil. {13:5} Wherefore [ye] must needs be
subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
{13:6} For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are
God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
{13:7} Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom
tribute [is due;] custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear;
honour to whom honour. {13:8} Owe no man any thing, but
to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled
the law. {13:9} For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear
false witness, Thou shalt not covet;
and if [there be] any
other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this
saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Even tax dodgers are toast.....
Wow....... The public executions will beat anything that happened at Tyburn.
 

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No, but the sanity of the raped woman is.

Would the death of the man who raped her affect her sanity?

Would she then, after the rapist is executed for his crime, be able to love her child without fear?
 

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That is not how it works.

That's how justice and mercy work, Kiwi.

Abortion in the case of rape and incest should be the rule.

No, the rule should be to love the child, and execute the rapist.

Not love the rapist and execute the child for the crime of his father.

No woman should have to carry the child of their abuser to term.

Kiwi, You just called it a child. And rightly so.

It's WRONG to kill children.

Therefore, it would be wrong to kill the child for the crime of his father.
 

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How would you feel if you were lured to a quiet place somehow, thrown on to the ground stripped naked and then raped by a much more powerful man?

A woman in such a situation should be doing everything in her power to break free and to scream and shout and call for help in any way she can to get away from someone who is about to violate her.

Would you actually be able to report the crime or discuss it with your friends?

How many women have tried reporting it to the police only to be turned away because of the backlog of rape cases that have yet to be processed?

Do you think that gives a rape victim any confidence that her attacker would evr be brought to justice?

When would you manage to forget that incident and move forward?

How many women are taunted by their attacker as he sits comfortably in prison, refusing to let her forget that he overpowered her?

Now all you have to do is imagine that you are female

Pervert. I, a man, am not going to think like a woman, because I am not a woman.

and told that you are pregnant because of that atrocious treatment. There will be some women who feel that the baby must be given a chance at life, so what I want to know is this:-

Are you prepared to support that child's every need until adulthood,

A woman should provide for her children, regardless if she's prepared or not.

There is no other rational alternative.

She should find and marry a man who is willing to support her so that she can provide for her children, even if they are the result of rape.

Love the child, hate the rapist. Not the other way around.

free and total healthcare, free schooling and university education, free subsistence as necessary.

None of those things should be free.

And the mother will need best counselling, care and healthcare until several months after the birth.

The best counseling a woman who has been raped can get is that her rapist has been put to death, and will never harm her or anyone else again.

Will you put your hand in your pocket for every child, every time, and pay in for maximum care?

How much do you care?

Through a government program? No thanks
 
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