Michelle Obama Is A Woman

[eider]

No, the rule should be to love the child, and execute the rapist.

But how much love would your system extend to the child and its victim mother?

Would your system give total free and full healthcare, best education and any necessary provision until adulthood? And how would your system offer support and counsel to the mother?

How much love has your system got?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Two adults having sex bear the responsibility for making a baby

Hear, hear!

and, in the case of rape I believe that should be covered by existing taxes.

Only to the extent that the taxes are used to fund the execution of the rapist.

Seems any reason is reason enough for you to argue the murder of the innocent.

Their bloodlust cannot be satiated even by killing children in the womb.

If given the opportunity, they would put God to death to justify themselves.

Oh wait, they did....

 

[JudgeRightly]

Was Clinton convicted?

Does it matter?

The fact is that he raped her.

 

[eider]

Pervert. I, a man, am not going to think like a woman, because I am not a woman.

Pervert? For trying to empathise with rape victims?
No further comment from me....

But now you've shown that you have no intention of trying to understand how a rape victim feels.
Actually, this question of mine was asked of men, not women, because men do get raped and male rape victims need massive courage to report the crime, to seek counselling, to tell about their dreadful experience.

If we expect rape victims to keep their children, a massive request since the child is a lifetime reminder pf what happened, then every cost for full healthcare, full education through university and any other needs should be paid for by the government...... from taxation.

 

[eider]

Does it matter?

The fact is that he raped her.

So you system would execute unconvicted people....
OK......

 

[JudgeRightly]

I don't believe in death penalty for rapists and child molesters because there are way too many false convictions.

You have it backwards.

There are too many rapists, child molesters, and false convictions BECAUSE we have all but gotten rid of the death penalty, and because our legal system (we no longer have a justice system, now it's just-a-system) has become so convoluted that it tries to protect the innocent by letting the criminal go free.

Killing the innocent and letting the murderer go free are equally wrong.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Me? [eider goes on to talk about his own family)

Yeah, but how about what you've done for other people, eider?

 

[JudgeRightly]

So you would need to strongly support special care for pregnant rape victims, and if they decide to have the child your country should provide full and free healthcare, Best and free education and any needed subsistence until adulthood.

Nope. The woman should find a man willing to provide for her and her child.

No reason to kill the baby.

And certainly no valid reason for the government to provide for her.

But you've shown no such inclination...... so I don't trust your idea of pro-life.

That's nice.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Do you really believe that executing wrath on convicts is killing them?

A sword is not used to flog people. (Romans 13:4)

However, I do believe you've convinced yourself that we believe that the government should only execute those who break the law, and so, trying to explain to you how a government should function would be pointless.

If so, then you believe in Death for the following evils:-

Romans:
{13:4} For he is the minister
of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be
afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the
minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him
that doeth evil. {13:5} Wherefore [ye] must needs be
subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
{13:6} For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are
God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
{13:7} Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom
tribute [is due;] custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear;
honour to whom honour. {13:8} Owe no man any thing, but
to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled
the law. {13:9} For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear
false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any
other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this
saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Nope.

Even tax dodgers are toast.....
Wow....... The public executions will beat anything that happened at Tyburn.

Your mockery of what scripture says is duly noted, by TOL readers and by God.

 

[JudgeRightly]

But how much love would your system extend to the child and its victim mother?

It would put the rapist to death.

That is FAR more loving than executing the child and protecting the rapist.

Would your system give total free and full healthcare, best education and any necessary provision until adulthood?

No. Such things should not be free, nor provided by the government.

And how would your system offer support and counsel to the mother?

The former, in the form of protecting other women from rapists, and the latter, informing those who have been raped that their attacker has received justice by being executed.

How much love has your system got?

More love than you can imagine.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Pervert? For trying to empathise with rape victims?
No further comment from me....

Ok. Since you said no further comment, I stopped reading here.

 

[JudgeRightly]

So you system would execute unconvicted people....
OK......

Don't change the subject, eider.

Does it matter if Clinton was convicted when the fact of the matter is that he raped Juanita?

 

[Rusha]

Nope. The woman should find a man willing to provide for her and her child.

No reason to kill the baby.

OR she could be the sole parent until or if the time comes that she meets someone worthy of being her husband and the father of her child.

 

[JudgeRightly]

OR she could be the sole parent until or if the time comes that she meets someone worthy of being her husband and the father of her child.

How is that any different than what I said?

 

[Rusha]

How is that any different than what I said?

The sole purpose for marrying shouldn’t be about fatherhood but rather compatibility.

 

[eider]

Yeah, but how about what you've done for other people, eider?

Look........ at this time and for half a century, women where I live can choose whether to take a rape birth through to completion..... and you would stop that, it seems, so please don't interrogate me on how much support I have given to rape victims.

I gave my time for a suicide counselling service for some years and I don't expect you will have as much as a clue about what rape victims, both men and women, feel about their dreadful experiences.

Further to that, it begins to look as if you wouldn't extend anything to a 'rape mother', so I don't believe in any of your tenets connected to this subject matter.

 

[eider]

Nope. The woman should find a man willing to provide for her and her child.

No reason to kill the baby.

And certainly no valid reason for the government to provide for her.



That's nice.

Again....... your own words tarnish your own opinions about 'rape motherhood'.

 

[eider]

A sword is not used to flog people. (Romans 13:4)

However, I do believe you've convinced yourself that we believe that the government should only execute those who break the law, and so, trying to explain to you how a government should function would be pointless.

Nope.

Your mockery of what scripture says is duly noted, by TOL readers and by God.

I wasn't laughing....
I was quoting Paul's letters and showing how that would affect a community run by your system. And that wouldn't be a joke.

 

[eider]

More love than you can imagine.

So please show us where this love is........
Only bible quotes would serve, I think, and not your ideas.

I know so many Christians who promote love, but I doubt that they are of your church and I feel quite confident in saying that.

 

[eider]

Don't change the subject, eider.

Does it matter if Clinton was convicted when the fact of the matter is that he raped Juanita?

You know that for a fact? Without a Court's verdict and a conviction?
It matters this much....... people who decide to execute unconvicted people amount to a lynch mob.

.......... and you needed to ask me how my comment matters? Shocking.