Michelle Obama Is A Woman

[JudgeRightly]

What a load of tosh.

Appeal to the stone.

The Bible only once mentions the killing of a child,

Again, the Bible says killing the innocent is murder.

Children are, generally speaking, innocent.

Thus, killing a child is murder.

Subsequently, Christ (and others) was called, in the womb, a "child."

Thus, killing a "child in the womb" is equivalent to killing a child, which is murder.

other than encouraging it,

Where does the Bible encourage killing a child in the womb?

and that is the Exodus passage where it is treated as a civil crime covered by the paying of a fine.

Yet you won't quote or reference the verse. Would you like to do so?

If not, how am I or anyone else supposed to know what you're talking about?

Oh and as for the "I'm not Jewish" bit, 1: Jesus was

Indeed He was.

and 2: You seem happy to overlay your beliefs onto their scriptures.

Rather, I let scripture define my beliefs.

You didn't respond to this:

Jesus was referred to with "Him," "He," and "His," while still in the womb. You leftists sure love making a big deal about pronouns, so are you going to deny Jesus (who at the time was in the womb) His pronouns?

Would you please?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Jesus opinion of the religious leaders of his time are his own. There are "children of the devil" aplenty here and now and very few of them Jewish. I have never denied the fact that a zef is a human life, what I deny is that it is a more important life than that of the woman carrying it.

Is the life of the rapist more valuable than the life of the child conceived in rape?

 

[kiwimacahau]

Is the life of the rapist more valuable than the life of the child conceived in rape?

No, but the sanity of the raped woman is.

 

[JudgeRightly]

So...... apart from the sacrificial laws and rules 507 OT laws remain.

Yet you won't ever list them.

Do you keep to them all?

Nope.

I expect that you don't actually know many of them.

I expect that you as well don't actually know any of them.

I feel quite sure that it did.

"Except..."

Do you not read the entirety of what I say before commenting on it?

I don't know the statistics but illnesses and operations that require transfusions account for many cases.

Do you assert that infection isn't a serious problem anymore, and that diseases like AIDS aren't a mainly homosexual-only disease?

Protection against the transmission of infection and disease.

Wrong.

God banning certain foods had absolutely nothing to do with diseases or infections.

Would you like to try again?

Where I live there is still a law that all flat roofing where anybody might be for any reason has to be protected by railings, fences or brick walls.
But not where you live?

Not a clue.

The point I was making was that negligence is a crime.

Idiocy is not.

Fraud and bearing false witness are.

Not in the earliest times........ because they were stronger...... because they kept all the laws.

No, they didn't. If they did, they wouldn't have been such a wicked nation.

No..... it doesn't.

Yes..... it does. The Law remains to this very day. Do you not have laws in your country?

Like many others that you suggest are not needed any more, that one isn't.

Because you say so?

If so, then I say it is necessary.

Who's right? Based on what reasoning?

 

[JudgeRightly]

No, but the sanity of the raped woman is.

So provide counseling to the mother, and protect the baby, and punish the rapist.

Simple enough.

 

[eider]

Yet you won't ever list them.

I don't need to.
They are mostly in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy.
Now why would you need me to show them since you know the bible so well?

I expect that you as well don't actually know any of them.

Unfortunately for your argument, I do.

Do you assert that infection isn't a serious problem anymore, and that diseases like AIDS aren't a mainly homosexual-only disease?

Not where I live.

God banning certain foods had absolutely nothing to do with diseases or infections.

Would you like to try again?

No need for me to.
Just read your bible, I would suggest.

Let me get you started.

Exodus {15:26} And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon
thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I [am] the LORD that healeth thee.

 

[kiwimacahau]

So provide counseling to the mother, and protect the baby, and punish the rapist.

Simple enough.

That is not how it works. Abortion in the case of rape and incest should be the rule. No woman should have to carry the child of their abuser to term.

 

[Leatherneck]

That is not how it works. Abortion in the case of rape and incest should be the rule. No woman should have to carry the child of their abuser to term.

So based on your complete lack of logic if your neighbor offends you then it would be OK to drive to the next town and kill the first person you see. The murdered baby broke no law.

 

[eider]

So based on your complete lack of logic if your neighbor offends you then it would be OK to drive to the next town and kill the first person you see. The murdered baby broke no law.

How would you feel if you were lured to a quiet place somehow, thrown on to the ground stripped naked and then raped by a much more powerful man?
Would you actually be able to report the crime or discuss it with your friends?
When would you manage to forget that incident and move forward?

Now all you have to do is imagine that you are female and told that you are pregnant because ofd that atrocious treatment. There will be some women who feel that the baby must be given a chance at life, so what I want to know is this:-

Are you prepared to support that child's every need until adulthood, free and total healthcare, free schooling and university education, free subsistence as necessary.

And the mother will need best counselling, care and healthcare until several months after the birth.

Will you put your hand in your pocket for every child, every time, and pay in for maximum care?

How much do you care?

 

[Leatherneck]

How would you feel if you were lured to a quiet place somehow, thrown on to the ground stripped naked and then raped by a much more powerful man?
Would you actually be able to report the crime or discuss it with your friends?
When would you manage to forget that incident and move forward?

Now all you have to do is imagine that you are female and told that you are pregnant because ofd that atrocious treatment. There will be some women who feel that the baby must be given a chance at life, so what I want to know is this:-

Are you prepared to support that child's every need until adulthood, free and total healthcare, free schooling and university education, free subsistence as necessary.

And the mother will need best counselling, care and healthcare until several months after the birth.

Will you put your hand in your pocket for every child, every time, and pay in for maximum care?

How much do you care?

Two adults having sex bear the responsibility for making a baby and , in the case of rape I believe that should be covered by existing taxes. Seems any reason is reason enough for you to argue the murder of the innocent.

 

[eider]

Two adults having sex bear the responsibility for making a baby and , in the case of rape I believe that should be covered by existing taxes. Seems any reason is reason enough for you to argue the murder of the innocent.

I did not argue murder of innocents. I asked how you would cope after being raped.
And I asked if you would support total health care, full education through university, and any subsistence necessary for mother and child.
You failed to answer.

 

[Leatherneck]

I did not argue murder of innocents. I asked how you would cope after being raped.
And I asked if you would support total health care, full education through university, and any subsistence necessary for mother and child.
You failed to answer.

I answered you obviously aren’t smart to understand the answer.

 

[eider]

I answered you obviously aren’t smart to understand the answer.

So you could not imagine a situation where you might be raped yourself, nor how you would ever cope with it afterwards.

And you don't really care about rape victims or their children at all.

I'm smart enough to see that.

 

[Rusha]

So you could not imagine a situation where you might be raped yourself, nor how you would ever cope with it afterwards.

And you don't really care about rape victims or their children at all.

I'm smart enough to see that.

Many don’t ... those who willfully disregard rape victims are promoters of abortion.

 

[eider]

Many don’t ... those who willfully disregard rape victims are promoters of abortion.

What gets me is the fact that so many men are totally unempathetic about rape victims.
Usual comments to partially blame victims is common.
But they never think about how they themselves would cope with being raped, which is not unknown by any means. I suspect that male rape can often lead to suicide.

 

[Jefferson]

What gets me is the fact that so many men are totally unempathetic about rape victims.

Does this include Democrat men being unempathetic about Bill Clinton raping Juanita Broaddrick?

 

[Leatherneck]

Does this include Democrat men being unempathetic about Bill Clinton raping Juanita Broaddrick?

The libtards hypocrisy has no limits.

 

[OZOS]

Making an exception for abortion in the case of a rape, is no different than making an exception in a case of rape.

 

[Rusha]

What gets me is the fact that so many men are totally unempathetic about rape victims.
Usual comments to partially blame victims is common.
But they never think about how they themselves would cope with being raped, which is not unknown by any means. I suspect that male rape can often lead to suicide.

Those *men* do not believe women have the right to say no.

Insofar as male rape leading to suicide, it’s because those men know how a good portion of men will respond.

 

[Leatherneck]

Those *men* do not believe women have the right to say no.

Insofar as male rape leading to suicide, it’s because those men know how a good portion of men will respond.

Normal people do not condone the murder of babies no matter your trumped up phony excuse to justify murdering babies.