drbrumley
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Pot calling kettle
Marijuana legalization: LESS government?
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Pot calling kettle
I've talked about the psychosis link before, here it is again.
Study Shows Association Between Development of Psychosis and Smoking Marijuana
March 1, 2011
Adolescents and young adults who smoke marijuana have an increased risk for experiencing psychotic symptoms, according to a new study.
The new findings appear online in the journal BMJ.
Researchers assessed marijuana use during a 10-year study of 1,923 participants aged 14 to 24 in Germany.
Those participants who had no psychotic symptoms and had never tried marijuana when the study began and then started using marijuana had nearly double the risk of experiencing psychotic symptoms in the future.
And those who used marijuana before start of the study and who continued use over the study period had an increased risk of persistent psychotic symptoms, the study shows...
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20110301/marijuana-use-linked-to-risk-of-psychotic-symptoms
Greg Jennings
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Explain how the comment was out of context.
Being that drbumley found the quote at one of his Libertarian websites (most likely Lew Rockwell's), I would prefer to have drbrumley explain in detail C. S. Lewis' stance on morality from the source where the quote originally came from:
God in the Dock: Essays on Theology and Ethics
Greg Jennings
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I think it should be legal, but aCW I'm with you on potential health hazards. The stuff that was around even ten years ago isn't what is out there now. It's a whole new level. I do think a 21 age limit needs to be put on it because there is some evidence to suggest Mary Jane ain't great for the developing brain.
Yeah, people should really wait until they're 21 to ruin their lives.
Greg Jennings
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It's not like if you smoke it every once in a while you get health issues. You have to smoke it A LOT
Greg Jennings
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What do you think about Cruz's stance that pot legalization should be left to the states?
drbrumley
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His stance on morality surely is much better than yours and he has a better grasp of the issues than you do. It would do well for you to actually read his work and the scriptures so you can see for yourself what a moral busybody you are, sticking your nose in where it doesn't belong.
drbrumley
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Notice he made the charge, yet won't explain himself. He is above that.
drbrumley
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Insert sarcasm here.
You might want to read up on what goes into your body when you smoke dope.
As I mentioned to my
The Founding Fathers didn't write our founding documents for a secular humanist nation (which we have today). Ted Cruz is a constitutional scholar and knows that allowing the respective states to deal with immoral issues such as homosexuality and recreational drug use is much better than having federal rulings like Roe v Wade, Lawrence v Texas/Obergefell v Hodges.
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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Being that drbumley found the quote at one of his Libertarian websites (most likely Lew Rockwell's), I would prefer to have drbrumley explain in detail C. S. Lewis' stance on morality from the source where the quote originally came from:
God in the Dock: Essays on Theology and Ethics
Ah yes, yet another Libertarian that proclaims that "the scriptures" endorses recreational drug use, homosexuality, pornography and the long list of supposed "victimless crimes" that you Libertarians promote.
Regarding C. S. Lewis: While the Libertarian movement would love to claim him as one of their own, he's noted as being a staunch supporter of morality and a "cultural conservative" (there is only one kind of Christian: those who acknowledged God's Word as seen in Holy Scripture).
C.S. Lewis: Political and Cultural Conservative
A Politics for a Fallen Humanity
Any consideration of C.S. Lewis’s writings on politics and culture must begin by stressing that he was not primarily a political philosopher. What Lewis did say about politics and society flowed from his understanding that Christianity illuminates all aspects of life in this world. With his characteristic vividness and lucidity, Lewis drew attention to truths whose neglect has blighted the modern world and whose recovery is essential if we are to preserve freedom, excellence, and human dignity.
Lewis was a sharp critic of many of the dominant ideological and cultural trends of the 20th century. To the extent that he saw himself as a lonely and beleaguered spokesman for that central tradition of Christian thought which once characterized Western civilization, Lewis can be properly regarded as a political and cultural conservative in the widest and deepest sense of the word. He was a critic of secular humanism and scientific utopianism, and an opponent of collectivism, egalitarianism, and “progressive” morality. Since this body of ideas and assumptions continues, in various forms, to characterize the mentality of most Western intellectuals, Lewis’s critique is still relevant...
The State exists simply to promote and to protect the ordinary happiness of human beings in this life. A husband and wife chatting over a fire, a couple of friends having a game of darts in a pub, a man reading a book in his own room or digging in his own garden — that is what the State is there for. And unless they are helping to increase and prolong and protect such moments, all the laws, parliaments, armies, courts, police, economics, etc., are simply a waste of time. In the same way the Church exists for nothing else but to draw men into Christ, to make them little Christs. If they are not doing that, all the cathedrals, clergy, missions, sermons, even the Bible itself, are simply a waste of time. God became Man for no other purpose. (Mere Christianity).
http://www.crisismagazine.com/1994/c-s-lewis-political-and-cultural-conservative
So much for C. S. Lewis' alleged support of "victimless crimes" (recreational drug use, homosexuality, pornography, prostitution, suicide, etc.).
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Being that drbumley found the quote at one of his Libertarian websites (most likely Lew Rockwell's), I would prefer to have drbrumley explain in detail C. S. Lewis' stance on morality from the source where the quote originally came from:
God in the Dock: Essays on Theology and Ethics
Ah yes, yet another Libertarian that proclaims that "the scriptures" endorses recreational drug use, homosexuality, pornography and the long list of supposed "victimless crimes" that you Libertarians promote.
Regarding C. S. Lewis: While the Libertarian movement would love to claim him as one of their own, he's noted as being a staunch supporter of morality and a "cultural conservative" (there is only one kind of Christian: those who acknowledged God's Word as seen in Holy Scripture).
C.S. Lewis: Political and Cultural Conservative
A Politics for a Fallen Humanity
Any consideration of C.S. Lewis’s writings on politics and culture must begin by stressing that he was not primarily a political philosopher. What Lewis did say about politics and society flowed from his understanding that Christianity illuminates all aspects of life in this world. With his characteristic vividness and lucidity, Lewis drew attention to truths whose neglect has blighted the modern world and whose recovery is essential if we are to preserve freedom, excellence, and human dignity.
Lewis was a sharp critic of many of the dominant ideological and cultural trends of the 20th century. To the extent that he saw himself as a lonely and beleaguered spokesman for that central tradition of Christian thought which once characterized Western civilization, Lewis can be properly regarded as a political and cultural conservative in the widest and deepest sense of the word. He was a critic of secular humanism and scientific utopianism, and an opponent of collectivism, egalitarianism, and “progressive” morality. Since this body of ideas and assumptions continues, in various forms, to characterize the mentality of most Western intellectuals, Lewis’s critique is still relevant...
The State exists simply to promote and to protect the ordinary happiness of human beings in this life. A husband and wife chatting over a fire, a couple of friends having a game of darts in a pub, a man reading a book in his own room or digging in his own garden — that is what the State is there for. And unless they are helping to increase and prolong and protect such moments, all the laws, parliaments, armies, courts, police, economics, etc., are simply a waste of time. In the same way the Church exists for nothing else but to draw men into Christ, to make them little Christs. If they are not doing that, all the cathedrals, clergy, missions, sermons, even the Bible itself, are simply a waste of time. God became Man for no other purpose. (Mere Christianity).
http://www.crisismagazine.com/1994/c-s-lewis-political-and-cultural-conservative
So much for C. S. Lewis' alleged support of "victimless crimes" (recreational drug use, homosexuality, pornography, prostitution, suicide, etc.).
drbrumley
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Where did I say that? The scriptures endorse no such thing and neither do I. So please show where I in fact endorsed said behavior. And also, please cite thru the WWW where libertarians say the scriptures endorse recreational drug use, homosexuality, pornography and the long list of supposed "victimless crimes" that Libertarians promote. You make alot of things up, so needless to say you can't be trusted with your musings.
What exactly here is there to disagree with? :idunno: BTW, CS Lewis, like myself, didn't endorse that behavior either. But I do know he, like me, doesn't support your tyrannical views either.
drbrumley
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Why?
badp
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Because it's not based on an objective standard. It's based on "not violating the rights of others" -- problem is libertarians can't agree on what constitutes an "other" and what rights they actually have.
drbrumley
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So what's the objective standard?
badp
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The principles of government laid out in the Scriptures
drbrumley
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I agree with that, so what principles of government laid out in the scriptures violated the rights of others?