ECT Madists are closet Calvinists

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john w

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Not sure why anyone would want to use divorce against someone.

Or someone's height, eh actress?

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As a kid I remember the show 'big John little John'. I'm showing my age.
Didn't the father randomly turn into the kid and vice versa? LOL"-carrot top andycain
 

john w

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He's a desperate little man.

My wife and I are one flesh in Christ Jesus:

(Eph 5:31) "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."

Despite the following verse, Johnny tries so hard to separate what God has joined together (my wife and me)

(Mark 10:9) Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.


"Is that Johnny W's actual height?

No wonder they call him "Little Johnny W."


And now, "little man," eh wimp? Think you're a real tough guy, eh, weasel?Trying to impress your wife, with your condescending comments, and how "tall," and tough you are, eh cowboy?

Vs.

1 Samuel 16:7
But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.


You satanic piece of trash, and actress,like your little buddy, candyandycain. Both of you are admitted creme puffs, weasels.


"Johnny tries so hard to separate what God has joined together (my wife and me)"-Craigie

Real cute, blimp. Read this scripture, obsessed one:

1 Timothy 5:8 KJV
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.


Get a job, infidel, Freddie the Freeloader.Act like a man for a change, you spineless punk.

Why did you try to set me up with your wifem Craigie? I offered to meet both of you, and you punted. Why was that, tough "guy?" Like you punted, in the Hilston debate? That's part of your MO on TOL-act "tough," and then slither away, like the snake, that you are...

I thought so. Real tough guy, is this "6' 3" Craigie. Anytime you want to meet in the DFW area, as you suggested, let me know, and this 5'11 "little man" will gladly oblige you. I thought so. Your wife is not watching you now, is she sweetie, so you can impress her, with how much of a "big man" you are, is she? Yes....

And how long have you been "desperate," in that "little" Preterist cult of yours, wimp?
 

Tambora

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What?
Are you now saying that the kingdom in verse 11 & 12 is an earthly physical kingdom, separate from the BOC (body of Christ)?

Matthew 8:11-12 KJV
(11) And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
(12) But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.​


I quoted the passage earlier. But here it is again in context......

Rom 9:3-8
3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh, 4 who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; 5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, "In Isaac your seed shall be called." 8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.
Focus.

It is the children of the kingdom that are being cast out of the kingdom.
Matt 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out​
 

tetelestai

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Anytime you want to meet in the DFW area, as you suggested, let me know,

Can I get a private tour of Dallas Theological Seminary?

I really want to see the Mecca of where John Nelson Darby's teachings are being taught.
 

tetelestai

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I think it means that the children of the kingdom were cast out.
What do you think it means?

(Matt 8:12 NIV) But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

The "subjects of the kingdom" were the Jews who denied Christ Jesus.

Salvation came from the Jews:

(John 4:22) You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

The many from the east and west were the Gentiles (non-Jews)
 

Cross Reference

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Here's how you can tell when your winning a debate against MADists.

1) STP will keep repeating the same thing over and over again.

2) Johnny (Brian Williams) W will make post after post that will have absolutely nothing to do with the subject being debated.

Gross fits that pattern as well __ big time.
 

Tambora

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(Matt 8:12 NIV) But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

The "subjects of the kingdom" were the Jews who denied Christ Jesus.

Salvation came from the Jews:

(John 4:22) You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

The many from the east and west were the Gentiles (non-Jews)
"Children" is a perfectly acceptable translation.

And the fact is still that they were once in the kingdom, then cast out of the kingdom.
 

andyc

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Or someone's height, eh actress?

"Ha Ha
As a kid I remember the show 'big John little John'. I'm showing my age.
Didn't the father randomly turn into the kid and vice versa? LOL"-carrot top andycain

Ah ok. So using divorce is a good way to slap someone down, huh?
Remembering the old show was not meant to be a swipe at you, and I'm not red headed. But you can call me what ya like, makes no difference to me.

The important fact in this thread is that we didn't receive Jesus' faith.
 

andyc

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Trying to keep this thread focusing on the subject in the OP, could someone explain what the promise was to Abraham, and how receiving the Holy Spirit fulfils that promise?
 

journey

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Trying to keep this thread focusing on the subject in the OP, could someone explain what the promise was to Abraham, and how receiving the Holy Spirit fulfils that promise?

The OP is a total failure. I don't know how anyone could have kept this going 20 pages. The OP is about MAD folks being Calvinists, and that's a non-starter.
 

steko

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"Children" is a perfectly acceptable translation.

And the fact is still that they were once in the kingdom, then cast out of the kingdom.

Not only is "children/sons" acceptable, the NIV totally missed it.
huios-sons
 

andyc

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Focus.

It is the children of the kingdom that are being cast out of the kingdom.
Matt 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out​

Because only those who are of faith are Abraham's seed and heirs of the promise. The unbelieving Jews didnt lay hold of the spiritual kingdom, and so are cast out.
 

andyc

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The OP is a total failure. I don't know how anyone could have kept this going 20 pages. The OP is about MAD folks being Calvinists, and that's a non-starter.

You still haven't read the OP. And you havent challenged the points raised.
 
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