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Hey! Can you name the three manifestations of the Holy Spirit that you need to know for understanding??
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Hey! Can you name the three manifestations of the Holy Spirit that you need to know for understanding??
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Go back and read about the promise to Abraham. It's about becoming children of God by the Spirit of adoption. The promise of the Spirit makes us children of God. A multitude of nations.
You are nowhere scripturally.
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You are changing the subject, to deflect from the fact you are wrong.
When did he receive the Spirit?
andyc is getting picked apart, and all I am doing is quoting the scripture, which cannot be refuted.
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Nope. Jesus walked in the power of the Holy Spirit, but he did not need the Holy Spirit to become a Son. He was the Son. And this is the passage context of the passage.
I can see why you're fighting it to death, because you want to claim Christ's faith as your own. Nope, not scriptural.
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Please respond to post 221.
SaulToPaul 2
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Changing the subject again.
Christ received the promised Spirit by HIS faith.
Irrefutable.
Accept it.
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andyc
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Ok let's ask you a simple question.
What is the purpose of receiving the Spirit in relation to the promise to Abraham, as explained in the passage you're using?
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It's not changing the Subject. You are refusing to acknowledge that the promise of the Spirit to us is concerning our becoming children of God.
Jesus used the power of the Holy Spirit for ministry. This had nothing to do with the promise to Abraham. Jesus was already a Son.
I know it devastates your pet theory. That's why you're fighting it.
You won't link the promise to Abraham with spiritual sonship. That's where I've exposed you and MAD.
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That is easy to take as an "I don't know" __ which I believe can be your only answer.
<suffer in your willful ignorance because of which you will never understand>
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Born with it.
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Amen! And because of his cecessionism, will never understand.
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Do you see how MADists will dodge this?
They cannot bring themselves to acknowledge that the promise of the Spirit is to make us sons of God, and fulfill the promise to Abraham.
Any christian in the world of any denomination will understand this.
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Absolutely! Paul had it as 101 understanding.
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The reason they're denying it is because they don't want to be accountable. On the surface it sounds humble to acknowledge that it is not their faith that they live by, it's Christ's faith. But in reality its for accountability reasons. If it's nothing to do with their faith, God will only acknowledge Christ's faith, leaving them to live a lifestyle with zero accountability. Gnosticism.
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Gotcha! I understand where you are coming from. Sorry I didn't pick up on that truth.
I hope you understand my perspective as a truth.
Lost, are you, Ope? Get "re-saved." You taught us that-we learned that from you.
He is being bloodied, on the mat, in a heap, his only defense being, "Well, at least I lasted a round against the great STP, and my minions will arrive shortly, to re-pump me up with some more mysticism, and stock cliches, and grunts, and snorts...."
Stock cliche #666. You teach a course on that, do you, Ope?
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