"Christ never said that He would come back to planet earth. He said He would come to take people back to where He had gone.Does the above sound like Christ comes back to planet earth?"-Tet.
You deceiving punk-spamming that on every thread, even though myself, and others, picked apart that Preterist sham, and con game of yours.
John 14 KJV
1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
mansions-the Temple at Jerusalem, with its many courts/chambers...
Preterists: symbolic...
It appears as if there are those who believe that the OT saints, and NT saints that were promised an earthly kingdom, will not get it after all.
That they will be taken to heaven for eternity. That is a scam view..
According to Jeremiah 23:5 KJV "Behold the days come lsaith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and execute judgment in the earth.
The Lord Jesus Christ taught to pray: "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven" Matt. 6:10 KJV
The kingdom "of heaven" is referring to the kingdom that is coming out of heaven, its origin, source of authority, from "the heavenlies," and will be established here upon the earth at the 2nd coming. "the second time," of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Many get their erroneous view from not being able to understand John 14:1-3 KJV.
John 14 KJV
1 "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3. And if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, ye will be also."
Come again"-not just "come"-returning to a place from which He had been
The Lord Jesus Christ asserts a few chapters later:
"I pray not that Thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldest keep them from the evil" John 17:15) KJV
If the Lord from heaven was speaking about taking the apostles out of the world with the Rapture in John 14 KJV, why would He pray and ask God the Father not to take them out of the world in John 17?
But as for John 14:3 KJV, it is often falsely assumed that the Lord Jesus Christ is saying that "heaven" was unprepared to receive the apostles, and so He would have to go to heaven to prepare a place for them. However, what would that mean? Was heaven unprepared to receive them? Did the Lord need to "clean up"a bit the place?
No, the Lord Jesus Christ was saying that His "going," I.e., His death, would be the thing that would prepare a place in heaven for them.
However, this does not mean that the Lord Jesus Christ was speaking of the Rapture here.
Sometimes believers are confused about I Peter 1:4 KJV, where the Lord Jesus Christ talks about Israel's inheritance which was "reserved in heaven for you." But we know that Israel's hope is the kingdom of heaven on earth, per 2 Peter 1:11 KJV. What is "Pete" talking about?
At the time Peter wrote those words, you must ask yourself-where the h_ was the kingdom? While it would eventually be on earth, it was at that time in the third heaven. Remember, it was "the kingdom of heaven." When the Lord Jesus Christ died, He went to heaven to get the kingdom for Israel, and to bring it back to the earth.
We know this from the parable in Luke 19. The Lord Jesus Christ told this parable because they thought the kingdom was about to appear (v.11). He told the parable to let them know that He had to die before the kingdom could appear.
The "certain nobleman" in Verse 12 is the Lord Jesus Christ. The "far country" He goes to is heaven, the "third heaven." He is speaking about dying and going to heaven.
Notice that He says that the purpose of His death is "to receive for Himself a kingdom, and to return." As far as Israel is concerned, that was the purpose of the Lord's death. He had to die to go get the kingdom, and return with it to earth.
Before He left earth, He charged His disciples to maintain His things while He was gone, verse 13. These are the apostles, to whom He gave "The Great Commission," and other numerous commands.
"But His citizens hated Him, and sent a message after Him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us"-verse 14.
The "citizens" here is apostate Israel. How did they sent a message after the Lord after He died? How do you send a message to someone in heaven? Well, it is a bit gruesome, but they did it by stoning Stephen. When they stoned Stephen, Acts 7, they sent a message, in no uncertain terms, to God the Father, that they did not want the Lord Jesus Christ to reign over them.
"And it came to pass, that when He was returned, having received the kingdom, then He commanded these servants to be called unto Him..."
Here we jump to the future, the 2nd coming of the Lord Jesus Christ-"the second time." When the Lord returns at the second coming, He will bring with Him the kingdom of heaven. He will then command "these servants to be called unto Him..." This is the "receive you unto Myself" that you are reading about in John 14:3 KJV.
It wouldn't make much sense to make John 14:3 to speak of the Rapture, though, for the parable goes on to talk about how the Lord is going to reward His servants by giving them command over the different "cities" of earth-John 19:17,19 KJV. This is Israel's hope. The 12 apostles will sit on 12 thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel, per Matthew 19:28 KJV, and faithful Jews under them will also be helping them rule. All in resurrected, BORN AGAIN, bodies.
Preterists- sitting on 12 thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel, in "the third heaven?" Deception. On earth.
However, it is the teaching of the apostle Paul that we will "judge angels," per 1 Cor.6:3 KJV). That is why Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 KJV says that we will be "raptured" to heaven, to reign in the heavenlies. Also, according to 2 Cor. 5:1 KJV, "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens." Further, Philippians 5:20 KJV, "For our conversation (citizenship) is in heaven; from whence also we look forward for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ." It is the church, which is his body, of this dispensation of the grace of God, that will inherit "the heavenlies."
Yes, the kingdom that is being prepared in heaven, which will be established in the earth at Christ's second advent, is for the Bride of Christ (Israel). The church, the body of Christ is not the Bride of Christ. Christ is the head of His Church, the body of Christ.
The church, the Body of Christ, will be raptured to heaven prior to the resumption of the Tribulation. Those deceased member of the church, the body of Christ, will be resurrected along with the living "body Saints" prior to the Tribulation. Those saints that were promised a place in the earthly kingdom will be resurrected at Christ's second coming. This is the first resurrection of prophecy. (The church, the body of Christ, cannot be found in prophecy.
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“And that is what happened. The Lord came in a way that everyone could see Him. However, He never touched planet earth, and when this event was over, He then sat on the throne in Heaven NOT on planet earth.”-Tet.
Made up. Deception.
Show us this "everyone," Preterist deceiver, as I have asked over and over.
He won't.
