Once you accept government handouts, they have the power to tell you what you can do with that handout.
Stand on your own two feet and you won't have to worry about it.
Stand on your own two feet and you won't have to worry about it.
Kentucky Pastor Barred From Ministering Over Biblical View on Homosexuality..
- Thread starter Angel4Truth
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No, you really dont, and your next statement proved it.
This is completely false, he was asked to sign that statement as soon as it became policy, not in conjunction to anything he has said.
He wasn't told to "get lost" either my my you libbies like to lie/completely make things up.
Did you even bother to read the op, or do you just like to make things up?
Quetzal
New member
I admit, a misunderstood the situation. Even so, we can break it down very simply. He was asked to sign something as a condition of his continued service, he said no. They dismissed him. Why are you upset, again?
He shouldnt be asked as a minister to agree that his beliefs are wrong and that he wont share them if asked. A minister shouldnt be asked to check his beliefs at the door, which is why hes suing. You keep ignoring the real issue.
Very simply, he has freedom of speech and religion.
Quetzal
New member
No it isn't. He is providing a service as a representative of the DJJ. As such, they are free to revoke that representation at will. He can sue and he will probably lose.
Thats false, hes there to minister to those who want a christian minister. Read my earlier example, it would be like me asking for a christian minister to minister to me in the hospital, and the hospital requiring him to agree that his beliefs are wrong and not to talk to me even about something i might ask about that they don't like.
Still stating false things i see.
PureX
Well-known member
Especially kids who are being held against their will. It's like having a cop hold someone down while you harangue them with your religion.
Quetzal
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Yes, a Christian Minister who is providing a service as a representative of an entity other than himself (it is very similar to an employment agreement). If you don't understand this very basic concept of how representatives work, then you have absolutely no authority to make claims regarding the topic.
LOL you didnt even read the op and have made things up here completely out of the blue with no basis in any fact, why am i surprised?
Quetzal
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It's simple. The DJJ presented him with new terms for him to continue his service there. He said no. They told him his services were no longer needed if he didn't comply. What isn't there to understand? This is being made into something bigger than it actually is.
Freedom of Speech and Religion being violated, is a big deal.
Quetzal
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You drastically misunderstand what those rights mean.
Nah, you don't understand what they mean. They DONT mean untill someone else doesn't like it.
He doesn't represent the state, he receives no salary. His rights were violated.
Quetzal
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How does he not represent the state? He volunteered for them, he is a representative of who they are. Just because he doesn't receive a paycheck from them doesn't give him the right to do/say whatever he wants while he is there without consequence.
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PureX
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No one has a "right" to minister to kids in detention. For money or for no money.
TracerBullet
New member
and the juvenile facility has the responsibility to see that the kids in their care are not abused or berated.
Some people think that their freedoms are being violated if the government won't sponsor their religious programs.
There are countries that would allow this, because there is no freedom of religion there. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Matthew 25:43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'
Jose Fly
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No. You don't have free speech rights at work. If you think you do, try going in and telling your boss what you "really" think of him/her and see what happens.
The youth facility didnt employ him, he received no pay.