BillyBob said:Blacks make up about 20% of the population in the US. [I couldn't find exact statistics]
Gaviidae said:Blacks make up 12% of the US population (2000). Does no one read my posts? :angel:
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And for what it's worth, in 2002 blacks made up 43% of the inmate population. source
PureX said:And you're still busily avoiding the ratio between race and poverty. Why is that?
Why do you think this is?BillyBob said:So, basically blacks are about 5 times more likely to end up in prison than the rest of the population
PureX said:Why do you think this is?
And why is this such a significant issue for you? You've repeated this several times, now.
PureX said:Why do you think this is?
Lots and lots of things are true, yet you aren't repeatedly posting about them. I'm just curious why this is such a significant issue for you.BillyBob said:It is significant because it is true.
I think it's because they live in a culture that is prejudiced against them in a way that they can never overcome (their skin color) and as a result they become a somewhat anti-social sub-culture within the culture at large. The ideals and the laws of the culture at large become less and less meaningful to them as they become more and more a part of this anti-social sub-culture. And sadly, this only in turn increases the justification for discriminating against them by the culture at large, which then even further consolidates and alienates them into an anti-social sub-culture. It's a self-perpetuating cycle, which explains why it continues over many, many decades even as so many white immigrent groups have come into the U.S., been discriminated against for a time (because they are "different"), and then been assimilated into the general population. This can't happen for blacks because even though they can assimilate their behaviors, they can't ever become white. And as long as they are not white, they will always be "different", and being different (in any culture) means being discriminated against.Gaviidae said:Why do you?
PureX said:I think it's because they live in a culture that is prejudiced against them in a way that they can never overcome (their skin color) and as a result they become a somewhat anti-social sub-culture within the culture at large. .
Right, because even though we're a nation of 300 million people, there can never be any exceptions at any time to any observations that I make about anything. Because if there were even one single exception to any observation that I make at any time, that will disprove every observation that I've ever made about anything, ever.BillyBob said:I've said this before, but it needs repeated:
:sozo: The fact that there are successful blacks in the US completely destroys your premise.
PureX said:This can't happen for blacks because even though they can assimilate their behaviors, they can't ever become white. And as long as they are not white, they will always be "different", and being different (in any culture) means being discriminated against.
PureX said:Right, because even though we're a nation of 300 million people, there can never be any exceptions at any time to any observations that I make about anything. Because if there were even one single exception to any observation that I make at any time, that will disprove every observation that I've ever made about anything, ever.
I suspect that most white people consider Asians and Jews "white". Don't you?Gaviidae said:What about asians? They can never be white. Or even Jews?
PureX said:That's true. In our relatively free environment, some blacks have managed to succeed in spite of the prejudices against them.
But that doesn't mean the prejudice isn't there, or that it's not playing a large role in why so many others have not been assimilated.