GFR7
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Very nice refutation, very apt. :BRAVO: :up:
Justice Kennedy needs a reminder about his own fear of harm from gay marriage
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GFR7
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Holding hands is a romantic act, which infers sexuality. This is why 2 straight men don't walk down the street holding hands.
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The trend now - in imitation of Elton John et al - is to forgo adoption, leaving unfortunate children as wards of the state, and to use surrogate wombs, egg and sperm donors. Third party/high tech reproduction is "where it's at".
As I asked before, why should their offense matter? There are also people who take offense to interracial couples holding hands.
There are much more important things in life to obsess over than an anonymous couple walking down the street, holding hands.
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Research reveals that gay marriage supporters in the US don't like to see this. Go figure. :idunno:
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I know seven children with same gendered parents, well six, one really can't be counted as a child anymore.
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How did gay unions produce such children? Sperm and egg donors? Divorce (bisexuality)? Womb surrogacy? They cannot be the natural issue of their union. How many are adopted?
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well at least you finally admit it
but I'm not to lazy to use a spell checker
yes yes yes the brief trots out the "5 percent reduction in heterosexual marriage rates" multiple times with much hand wringing and chest beating. However when you track down the source of the claim you find that the study they are taking the 5% figure from says something a little different. Specifically this 5% reduction in heterosexual marriage rates in the Netherlands only exists among women age 18-22. this reduction is short term in that the reduction disapears entirely for women by the age of 27. The study also goes on to note that this reduction while coincidental to the legalization of same gendered marriage it cannot be declared causative noting both the trend for marrying later rather than earlier and the introduction of Netherlands registered partnership (a civil union alternative to marriage.)
"It is impossible to attribute the decline in the marriage rate after
2001 to either the long-term effect of the registered partnership law or to the short-term effect of the same-sex marriage law." M. Trandafir The effect of same-sex marriage laws on different-sex marriage: Evidence from the Netherlands 2009
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why does it matter?
GFR7
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Because it should be known under what conditions these children came to be living with gay parents. There are many ethical problems with third party reproduction, for instance; so much so that many countries have regulated strictly such procedures.
Considering the incidents of abuse and murder at the hands of heterosexual parents, your logic (once again) is biased.
I am more interested in blocking ABUSIVE parents (single or married) from being allowed to continue their abuse.
Gay 'parents' do it too
Gay Connecticut couple accused of raping adopted children will face trial
Being an abuser is not a 'heterosexual' thing, its a sick human thing.
Funny how you're fine with recognizing equality when it comes to aberrant sexual behavior but not consensual sexual behavior.
would you block me?
The purpose of marriage is to produce Godly offspring.
Matthew 19:4 He answered, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?
Malachai 2:15 But did He not make them one,
Having a remnant of the Spirit?
And why one?
He seeks godly offspring.
Therefore take heed to your spirit,
And let none deal treacherously with the wife of his youth.
(Which can be done via adoption and even if one doesn't have physical children, by leading by example (production of spiritual children by pointing to relationship to God)
Also the purpose and function of the reproductive system doesn't change just because it might work correctly or one chooses not to use it as intended.
The marriage is a living picture of our relationship with God.
Matthew 19:4 He answered, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?
Malachai 2:15 But did He not make them one,
Having a remnant of the Spirit?
And why one?
He seeks godly offspring.
Therefore take heed to your spirit,
And let none deal treacherously with the wife of his youth.
(Which can be done via adoption and even if one doesn't have physical children, by leading by example (production of spiritual children by pointing to relationship to God)
Also the purpose and function of the reproductive system doesn't change just because it might work correctly or one chooses not to use it as intended.
The marriage is a living picture of our relationship with God.
God doesnt recognize gay marriage, neither do i. You can think me errant all day, i will err according to the world instead of erring before Him.
Guilt doesnt work on me, try another tactic.
Hmmm, not so long ago you made the statement that *you* would block me.
that is the purpose of sex
look how many are born outside of marriage
keeping mommy and daddy together is the best way to protect them
protecting the child
is
the purpose of marriage
I wasn't using "guilt," I was pointing out you're a hypocrite.
How? Because i recognize that humans are sinful as a whole?