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Rather, twenty-one people fail to see the contradiction inherent in the trinity doctrine.
Jesus is God
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The Logos manifests as three separate beings. Instead of 1+1+1, it is 1x1x1.
When a man prophecies, speaking in the direct place of God as if it were God Himself speaking, there are
two speaking, but only one is really speaking. The prophet is simply the conduit.
The Son, Father, and Spirit are conduits of the Logos, except unlike prophets, they are the manifestation of the Logos. And so they are unified but remain separate, and are all God.
It's tough to get down, and that's why it's so easy to deny. People don't want to think critically about it, they want to sit there with a bucket over their head banging a metal spoon against it.
There is no contradiction of the Trinity. In fact, it's extraordinarily immune to any and all contradiction.
Also, Under Pressure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoDh_gHDvkk
:chuckle:
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Come back when you can make sense. Thanks.
A man with all power and authority in heaven and on earth? That's just silly.
You would have rejected Jesus as well.
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And according to the Bible given to him by "god."
I agree. The whole "god" concept is stupid.
You do too it seems.
Given to God the Son by God the Father.
On several occasions you said that the apostles didn't seem to understand what Jesus said which I agree with.
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Book, chapter, and verse where Jesus is referred to as "god the son." I'll wait.
Only in the gospel of John, the most misunderstood of the books of the NT. You seem to be having trouble with it as well.
UP, what church or denomination are you affiliated with?
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Other. Didn't you get the memo?
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And the 12 asked Thomas what Jesus had told Him in private, and He answered, If I told you,ye would stone me, then the stones would turn to fire and kill ye .
I have found examining Thomas shows some-light to the whys and reasoning to John.
You must be embarrassed to acknowledge? I understand! I assume
you're part of some cult!
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:think:
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Other, suits me just fine.
If you did you wouldn't be neg-repping me at every opportunity. I recommend you quit harassing me before you get banned again.
The cult of Christianity? :nono:
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Or not.
"God the Son" is not found in the NT in the same way that the term "Son of God" is not found in the OT but it can be reasonably deduced.
Jesus Appears to Thomas
…27Then He said to Thomas, "Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing." 28Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" 29Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed."
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This is merely to observe that, though Caino was asked for documentary proof for a particular claim way back in Post #158---and again in Posts #161 and #266---he has been utterly unable to provide the requested information. Therefore, his initial claim (Post #143) simply falls flat, and may be dismissed by all thinking believers.
Gaudium de veritate,
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Here Caino equates being asked to actually prove (!) his bare anti-Catholic claims with being subjected to an "inquisition" (as though he knows any more about the inquisitions than he displayed in the ignorant claim he posted earlier). His empty---and wildly inapplicable---rhetoric aside, my observations in Post #316 above stand exactly as given, and his claim is summarily dismissed on those grounds.
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I just asked you a question! And, by the way, you
don't have the power to make threats, newbie!
