Yes, it was. You have a different god, than the Biblical One.
James White to Debate Bob Enyart on Open Theism
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Nang
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"Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How in searchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!" Romans 11:33
Persons like S0ZO and his OT friends, rob themselves of great spiritual treasures, due to insisting on keeping things dumb and dumber.
No hungering and thirsting for the hidden jewels of knowledge found through study of the Christ of God.
Persons like S0ZO and his OT friends, rob themselves of great spiritual treasures, due to insisting on keeping things dumb and dumber.
No hungering and thirsting for the hidden jewels of knowledge found through study of the Christ of God.
Nang
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Very good, this is correct. Which proved the Deity of the Christ who died on the cross.
God died on the cross. Anyone who believes otherwise is not in Christ, not saved, and will go to hell.
Your concern should be with the fact that you have no hope, a false god, and you have sold him to your family, whom you are dragging to hell with you.
God died on the cross.
The body of Jesus was in the grave for 3 days, and God (The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) raised Him from the dead. Perhaps you need to do a study on what death is.
glorydaz
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"When it is said...." Really? You should stop and think about what you're saying. You're claiming we are saved by the shedding of man's blood. That is error, and it's your "theology" that has run amok.
I know you think you have it all figured out, but you are lacking the most important fact, and that is there is no Saviour but God. Are you calling Him a liar? Dare you? You seem to think death is ceasing to exist. Where do you get that? From your "theology"?
"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man (Proponents of Reformed Theology ) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
glorydaz
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Exactly. And that would be the place to start. :thumb:
Nang
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Not what is taught. Sinners are saved by the shedding of Christ's blood.
glorydaz
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Yep...the ONE God. Never independent....always ONE. Never separated...always working in unison.
glorydaz
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Oh, so you deny our Lord Jesus Christ is God? Thanks for making that clear.
Nope, the Gospel is that we are justified by His blood, but we are saved by His life.
"Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life."
"Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."
Nang
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I do not deny the Deity of Jesus Christ. That is clear.
Nang
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Yes, and never changing . . .
Neither the Triune Godhead, nor the Son of God changed, when He assumed the flesh and blood of His brethren.
That is the crux of the disagreement between S0ZO (all Open Theists), and Reformers.
glorydaz
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It's certainly not clear from what you post.
glorydaz
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There you go....talking like there is some separation. Neither....nor....that's separate. I don't think you have a clue about what anyone's position is. Even your own.
Nang
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Very little Christology is understood by Open Theists. :sigh:
Nang
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Making distinction does not equate with making separation . . .
However, claiming the Godhead is mutable, is outright heresy.
God did not change.
Nang
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Have you told Stripe this, yet?
glorydaz
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Of course that would be according to your understanding, right? Yet, you don't seem to be able to acknowledge that God is the only Saviour. Why is that? How do you reconcile these verses when you shuffle our Lord, in His humanity, off to the side the way you do? Whose blood was shed for the sins of the world, and whose blood must we access to obtain life? God's or man's?
Isaiah 45:21 KJV
1 Tim. 2:3 KJV Titus 3:4 KJV Titus 3:6 KJV