I will not vote for trump

aCultureWarrior

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It is nice that you have made me first but, really I am not the only conservative on this site that understands that there is more at stake in this election than Trump, and I refuse to let a felon run our nation with my vote or by throwing away my vote on a third party loser for a statement.

Simple question:

Did you vote for McCain and Romney?

Oh and rocketman: if you vote for the secular humanist Donald Trump who has been a devout democrat for a good portion of his life, based on my definition of "conservative", you or anyone else can no longer call yourself that.
 

annabenedetti

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We're on mutual ignore, I know that and am fine with it, but if I may I'd like to ask you one question.

No we're not on mutual ignore. Although I'm aware you have me on "perma-ignore," I'm still responding to your posts in threads that interest me.

I have no idea why you've rejected Rome and it's none of my business so I'm not asking. But your ex-church opposes and hates the Gospel of the grace of God, officially cursing it. You've no doubt read that Gospel many times here.

May I ask for what reasons you reject the saving Gospel? The good news is that Christ died for your (and my) sins, was buried, and rose again for your (and my) justification. Believe that and be saved. What is it about that you don't/won't/can't accept?

Whatever your answer is, I promise not to reply but I hope you'll be blunt and honest in answering it.

Thanks.

I'm going out on a limb here because I don't trust you, and there's no fixing that. And I'll make this short because it's off-topic and an annoying interference in a thread meant to be about Trump, and I'm not comfortable perpetuating that, and my apologies to anyone who's been annoyed.

Of course I'll be honest, I wouldn't be anything else. And I've been blunt many times and it hasn't made any difference before and it won't make any difference now.

I almost never post in the religion threads anymore, I used to in the early years but I haven't now for a long time. But sometimes I'll go back in and read some of the threads in there, and I can't tell who's really-for-real got the gospel in there because most of you guys are involved in the nastiest fighting over who's got the real gospel that I've ever come across. It's crazy in there. Bizarrely, disturbingly crazy. Truthfully, that's how it looks to an outsider, and you guys really don't understand how you appear to a searcher or an unbeliever. Sometimes I'll read in there and just shake my head and think, why would I want what they're selling?

It's not about won't. It's about can't. I've tried a couple other churches in the past year but they fell flat, and I talk privately with a couple people here whom I trust. I appreciate them very much.

But I don't know anymore if all these years that I was praying, that there was anyone there listening, and I can't get that to that place anymore where I believed there was.

That's all I want to say.
 

annabenedetti

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Well, I tell the truth about you. You're a hypocrite and a fraud. The Catholic who pops off about the Catechism, yet supports gay marriage, and supports politicians who support abortion. That's the truth about you. Period.

I'm a non-practicing Catholic, and according to your catechism, I'll be burning in Hell for missing Mass on Sundays and eating meat during Lent.

And if you, a practicing Catholic, submit to the catechism in those things and then continue to not submit to the catechism when it comes to firebombing civilians, then who's really the hypocrite? You haven't answered me in the other threads, because you know you're stuck between the catechism and a hard place.
 

aCultureWarrior

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Nah, you could put a stuffed stuck up shirt label on it though...

You cranks and your asinine little tags and boxes...

Sad.

Using government to forcibly take private property from another for one's own use, is not a conservative value.

But then when I asked you to come to my thread to debate me on whether Donald Trump is a liberal or conservative, like all others I'd asked, you...

vanished...poof!
 

annabenedetti

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It's amazing that the Trump people allowed Cruz to speak: that's more than the Romney people did for Ron Paul & his people.

I saw some of the speakers early on, but I missed (am missing?) Cruz. Not too impressive. The one guy who was the casino investor? I'm sitting there thinking, good lord, what back room deal did they pull this guy out of? :chuckle:
 

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But then when I asked you to come to my thread to debate me on whether Donald Trump is a liberal or conservative, like all others I'd asked, you...

He's a liberal. He is only claiming to be a prolife Christian as a way to secure the votes of Christian conservatives.
 

Rusha

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And in that, he fits right in with the hated establishment Republicans, who've been doing that for many years already.

Oh, Trump has definitely lowered the bar. While I do not care for some of the Republicans who were running against Trump, every single one of them would have been a better choice. Trump is mentally unbalanced which makes him unfit to lead the country,.
 

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Using government to forcibly take private property from another for one's own use, is not a conservative value.

But then when I asked you to come to my thread to debate me on whether Donald Trump is a liberal or conservative, like all others I'd asked, you...

vanished...poof!

Are you off your meds or something?

I regard Donald Trump as a complete and total knob. I could care less about what his declared political leanings are or of those who try to lump him into any particular category to suit their own agenda.

There is nothing remotely liberal about trying to oust residents from their property because you want to bulldoze the land to build a bloody golf course in their place. There equally isn't anything conservative about such an agenda so take your head out of your own golf hole for a change and see things objectively for once.

If you can't then just go clean up the mall floor...

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He's a liberal. He is only claiming to be a prolife Christian as a way to secure the votes of Christian conservatives.

And in that, he fits right in with the hated establishment Republicans, who've been doing that for many years already.

While we've had many disagreements over many different issues over the years, I have to give credit where credit is due.
 

annabenedetti

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Oh, Trump has definitely lowered the bar. While I do not care for some of the Republicans who were running against Trump, every single one of them would have been a better choice. Trump is mentally unbalanced which makes him unfit to lead the country,.

If Kasich was the nominee, I would have voted for him.

I truly believe Trump doesn't know, doesn't understand, and doesn't care about what it takes to be President of the United States, he just wants to walk into rooms while they play Hail to the Chief.
 

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If Kasich was the nominee, I would have voted for him.

John Kasich: liberal flavor of the day

Gov. John R. Kasich of Ohio unabashedly promotes his expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare, shows little appetite for relitigating culture-war battles like same-sex marriage and offers not much more than a shrug when asked about Hillary Rodham Clinton’s turning over her email server to the F.B.I.

...Kasich is also a big favorite with the left because his staff is so much in favor of homosexual marriage that they might as well get one. His nomination would assure that religious freedom would be permanently trampled and religious practice limited by law to a few hours a week...

Read more: http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2015/08/15/john-kasich-liberal-flavor-day/

Yep, your kind of candidate anna.
 

annabenedetti

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They'll probably have to sing it, otherwise they'll be fired...

[FONT=proxima-nova, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]If he's not bored with the idea of being President by then...
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“It’s all in the hunt and once you get it, it loses some of its energy. I think competitive, successful men feel that way about women. Don’t you agree? Really, don’t you agree?” (TrumpNation: The Art of Being The Donald, 2005)

 

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If Kasich was the nominee, I would have voted for him.

I favored Kasich and Bush and currently Gary Johnson. The only thing I DO know is that I absolutely will not vote for Trump.

I truly believe Trump doesn't know, doesn't understand, and doesn't care about what it takes to be President of the United States, he just wants to walk into rooms while they play Hail to the Chief.

You give him the benefit of the doubt which is more than he *deserves*. Trump flat out doesn't care about anything other than his huge ego.
 
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