You may be correct but, you never know, politics makes strange bedfellows aCW and you know it. We will see what happens then discuss, you may be correct, I am sure it will be tense anyway. :thumb:
I will not vote for trump
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You may be correct but, you never know, politics makes strange bedfellows aCW and you know it. We will see what happens then discuss, you may be correct, I am sure it will be tense anyway. :thumb:
We need a leader to enforce the law. If the Constitution is enforced, THAT is what will allow Godly morals to flourish because that is what will allow freedom and liberty to flourish. Someone can have Godly morals and be a rotten president.
Don't get me wrong, a great president AND Godly morals would be great. But of the two, a great president is more important in the oval office.
Explosions are only fun when stuff flies all over the place. If aCW's head explodes there will only be a whoosh of dead air - no stuff inside.
annabenedetti
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This above is where you lied about me.
I haven't made it a secret that I came to TOL as a conservative seven years ago, and over those seven years, for multiple reasons, I no longer consider myself a conservative. I've said that clearly here, and I haven't hidden it. People change, rocketman, and sometime the change comes in political worldviews. I don't, however, consider myself a "leftist," because I'm not much to the left beyond the "more left than right" signifier which used to show under my avatar. True leftists would laugh at the idea that anyone would consider me a leftist.
But you're not telling the truth when you say that I was never a conservative, and your "I don't know you/I know you" waffling posted below shows that you're singing two different tunes. I most absolutely was a conservative, I voted straight Republican ticket until 2012, and no - I didn't vote for Obama, in case you want to jump on that wagon.
I was also a practicing Catholic my entire life until recently, and again, for multiple reasons, I've struggled with that faith, which should make happy those who condemned me to hell for practicing a "false religion," so I guess it's lose/lose with those sweet Christians here who like rejoicing in that kind of thing.
Now to the inconsistency of your words:
You can't have it both ways, rocketman. Either I was never a conservative or I'm no longer a conservative. I know which is true.
Yes, lied. And you did here as well:
No, I don't hate, although I'm sure there are a few 'christian' men here who'll high-five you for saying it. I don't hate anyone here - I just have the nerve to come to a discussion forum with an opposing point of view.
I doubt that it hurt you, I doubt you pray for me. People who care enough to pray aren't likely to lie about the person they're praying for.
Anyway. I've fallen into the "someone disagrees with me on the internet!" trap and it's best if we just let this go now and get back to politics. Feel free to put me back on ignore, it was probably better that way.
I remember her as essentially, if not verbatim, supporting abortion and gay marriage.. ...now she tries to throw the Catechism of the Catholic Church in my face and say I don't follow our teachings - Hypocrisy
annabenedetti
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Abortion? No. You won't find me supporting abortion anywhere here. Gay marriage? I don't have a problem with it at all. It's a civil rights issue, plain and simple.
You're the practicing Catholic here, not me. However... I know a lot about about Catholicism, and you sound like a Cafeteria Catholic.
Then don't you DARE throw the Catechism in MY face anymore! You don't have a problem with mortal sin and abominations unto the Lord, and you question MY Catholicism? Be gone, hypocrite!
annabenedetti
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:chuckle: Again: you're the practicing Catholic, you should be able to defend and accept the catechism in all aspects.
But you can't, can you? Because the catechism says that firebombing civilians is a "crime against God and man, which merits firm and unequivocal condemnation" and you just can't get behind that idea.
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annabenedetti
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Poor CC. He can't defend ALL of the CCC.
glassjester
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Every Protestant is a cafeteria Catholic.
Morpheus
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Morpheus
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Actually my point has been that, no matter what they claim to aspire to, not only are they really not trying to stop abortion, but they really want to keep abortion legal. Neither party has "morals"...they just want to retain power at whatever cost. The Republican party realized long ago that abortion translates into votes. If tomorrow the polls shift to 60+% pro-abortion the Republicans would get whiplash from the drastic turn in their policy.
Think about it. For years they screamed about the border and "illegals", but when it became evident that Hispanics are going to become a huge voting block, they started "softening" their policies, claiming that they need to "reach out to the Latino community" to remain viable in the future. A few hardliners hung onto the old policy, and then Trump used it as a wedge issue. But that is part of the reason for the split in the party. To the Parties morals and ethics are irrelevant; their survival is all that counts. And their "platforms" are just the result of highly calculated risk assessments.
[EDIT] I'll try to explain it this way. How many husbands have you met who claim over and over again that they love their wives, then time after time they beat them, only to come back with, "I'm so sorry! I'll never do it again! I love you so much!" Just how many times do you have to excuse their behaviors before you realize that if they really loved their wives they would not abuse them over and over again.
What use is it for a political party to say that they are against abortion when they do nothing to stop it?
You might ask how am I doing anything about abortion voting for a Democrat. I say that I do much to end abortion, and have for decades; but voting one way or the other makes no difference when the effect is the same whichever you vote for. I abandoned the idea that elections affect abortion long ago. I had to look to many other fields under the umbrella of government to find outcomes with actual differences from party to party, and then decide using those.
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Im sorry, is somebody talking to you? Are you a dyke with a Tacoma that has fooled people on TOL?
You are a sick, sick, twisted sicko. Go see a psychiatrist.
May the Lord quote you on that? :scripto: Mt 12:36, Heb 13:4
Which kid belongs to which mom?
Gen. 1:27, 28
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drbrumley
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Justin Raimondo
Foreign-funded Atlantic Council http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/us/politics/foreign-powers-buy-influence-at-think-tanks.html?_r=0 … mad Trump won't start WWIII over Ukraine.
Foreign-funded Atlantic Council http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/us/politics/foreign-powers-buy-influence-at-think-tanks.html?_r=0 … mad Trump won't start WWIII over Ukraine.