HOW TO GET TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE

[xfrodobagginsx]

Evidence For Creationism:


http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html

 

[meshak]

What you have been preaching is nothing new, friend.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

What you have been preaching is nothing new, friend.

For you maybe.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Paul is speaking of the ceremonial works. He was speaking to Gentiles who knew they were called unclean and without God because they did not do the ceremonial works.

GT, is baptism a ceremonial work? or is it required for salvation?

Peter and James tries to tell you not to misunderstand Paul.

Paul was a Pharisee and knew that people had to obey the ceremonial works for over 1,600 years.

Paul is not telling anyone to be careful not to obey!!!

 

[God's Truth]

GT, is baptism a ceremonial work? or is it required for salvation?

Various external washings were for the old testament ceremonial works. Baptism of repentance is for the new testament/covenant.

 

[Epoisses]

Various external washings were for the old testament ceremonial works. Baptism of repentance is for the new testament/covenant.

There were 613 commands in the ceremonial law and none of them apply to you. Stupid Gentile!

 

[God's Truth]

There were 613 commands in the ceremonial law and none of them apply to you. Stupid Gentile!

Jesus came and gave the teachings/rules for the NEW COVENANT. Who is stupid?

 

[Epoisses]

Jesus came and gave the teachings/rules for the NEW COVENANT. Who is stupid?

Jesus gave you the book of Galatians and you never read it. The law is not for Gentiles!

 

[meshak]

Jesus gave you the book of Galatians and you never read it. The law is not for Gentiles!

I did not know you were MAD.

 

[Epoisses]

I did not know you were MAD.

The law is not for you. It never was and it never will be. The law is not for the Jews anymore! The law ceased to be relevant after Christ fulfilled every part of it. You're cutting yourself off from grace.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Various external washings were for the old testament ceremonial works. Baptism of repentance is for the new testament/covenant.

So "baptism" (as opposed to "baptisms") is necessary for salvation?

 

[glorydaz]

Paul is speaking of the ceremonial works. He was speaking to Gentiles who knew they were called unclean and without God because they did not do the ceremonial works.

Peter and James tries to tell you not to misunderstand Paul.

Paul was a Pharisee and knew that people had to obey the ceremonial works for over 1,600 years.

Paul is not telling anyone to be careful not to obey!!!

Wrong, as usual. The ceremonial works were not written in stone.

2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:​

 

[glorydaz]

The law is not for you. It never was and it never will be. The law is not for the Jews anymore! The law ceased to be relevant after Christ fulfilled every part of it. You're cutting yourself off from grace.

The Law of Moses was for the Jews, but the Law of God is eternal, and for all men......and it's purpose is just as eternal.

 

[God's Truth]

Wrong, as usual. The ceremonial works were not written in stone.

2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:​

The ceremonial works were how the people entered into the covenant with God.

 

[God's Truth]

So "baptism" (as opposed to "baptisms") is necessary for salvation?

We are to do what Jesus says to do.

 

[God's Truth]

The law is not for you. It never was and it never will be. The law is not for the Jews anymore! The law ceased to be relevant after Christ fulfilled every part of it. You're cutting yourself off from grace.

Jesus came with grace. You think everything that Jesus says was wiped away when he died.

 

[God's Truth]

Jesus gave you the book of Galatians and you never read it. The law is not for Gentiles!

Jesus came and taught the new covenant rules and guidelines. Paul taught it too.

 

[JudgeRightly]

We are to do what Jesus says to do.

So then if Jesus tells His followers to go out into the world and baptize them, they should do it?

 

[meshak]

The law is not for you. It never was and it never will be. The law is not for the Jews anymore! The law ceased to be relevant after Christ fulfilled every part of it. You're cutting yourself off from grace.

so you disregard Jesus' laws just like MADs?

 

[JudgeRightly]

so you disregard Jesus' laws just like MADs?

Meshak, if Jesus says to go out and baptise the world, should His followers do it?